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Though on the flip side, from what I have read the Indians had serious issues in performance with them too which is why they rerolled almost immediately into a ground attack role?

I will also say dont forget that statlines can be misleading, everyone thought the strikemaster would be cracked going 800kmh at 6.3 until it was realised its a struggle bus to even go above 600-650kmh at times xD

Though it would indeed be funi if its superior to the hunter and a lower BR, maybe gaijin will finally look at the BR balancing of UKs non mach fighters like Hunter, Venom, etc xD

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Technically this is our third subtreee, we have had australia since british air was added

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it wont stay there. It probably wont be able to turn more than once without becoming a brick.
britain traditionally gets jets put 1+BRs too high (just look at the vampire/venom or hunters lmao)

its current placeholder BR is not where its gonna stay, I’m expecting 8.0 as its going to be a scimitar but worse in flight handling and A2G payload

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It was meant to be a high performance aircraft meant of Mach 1.5 (minimum spec) and ideally Mach 2, and the Orpheus engines were meant to be for the prototypes only, but they were kept for the production models. which limited it to a speed of mach 0.93-0.95, which severely limited its capability

I’m well aware, i’m just going off of the information i have at hand, and the main issue with the Strikemaster is the guns, its great otherwise, and still quite nimble, it’s just annoying when you get slow due to the RR Viper being a bit doo doo (gaijin when are you going to give it M134 pods or M3 .50cal pods?)

the Vampire is especially sad, 8.0 with comparable flight perf to the Meteor Mk.3 at 7.3, the Venom works at 8.7 because it has a functional engine and great turn but its really an 8.3 aircraft, and likewise with the Hunter F.1, it’s worse in today’s Meta than both the MiG-17 / MiG-17PF and F-86F-2 despite being a higher BR, its even the same BR as the Swedish Hunter F.4 with Missiles

its really sad how gaijin treats minor nations

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seems like it doesn’t have too many issues getting to speed, nor any major flaws in manoeuvrability from what little is shown, manoeuvrability seems to be average / just below average for its type

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Seems decent enough, though I will say be careful judging on that, a lot of it is when losing altitude to gain speed too which could throw off how well it retains energy in a dogfight etc. I do love his vids but sometimes they are a little too short to really grasp the feel.

I doubt it will stick at 7.7 and assume gaijin will fix that issue quick if it is stupidly good ofc, it is in the UK TT afterall ha. I always assumed it would be an 8.7 in GRB myself, so anything around that and I would be happy (happier at 8.3 for Vijayanta lineup but eh)

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bit of a better video for judging the flight performance

8.3 absolute minimum I’d say
realistically 8.7
With Britain tax 9.0

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Given its lack of advanced 8.3 GRB, 8.7/9.0 air RB indeed with a boom and zoom feel, though ofc the mass of 9.x low end mach jets kinda negates that sadly.

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Id like to point out that the Hunter F1, with no bombs, no rockets and no CCIP, is 9.0 in ground,

Hunter FGA9 with roughly comprable (though overall less) A2G is 9.3

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Gaijin added the Seperate BRs for air/ground just to shut people up, they’ve pretty much abandoned it,

if it were actually paying attention, the SAAB-105, MiG-15Bis ISh, A-1H, Strikemaster, Do-335B, Hunter F.58, Etc would be a higher BR,

and fighters would be a lower BR in ground, such as the F-86K, Lim-5, Saggitario, Hunter F.1, Javelin
or lower BR in air battles (A-7s primarily, most just went up in BR in ground like the Ayit or Yak-9K)
but there isn’t any movement there

Apparently the Hunter F.6 (UK) with only limited Dumb ordinance, No RWR, or Countermeasures, is Equal CAS to the Hunter F.58 with 2x Maverick-Bs, RWR and Countermeasures, while also being able to carry some HEAT rockets with that.

The Hunter F.58 is there with 2nd Gen Mavericks where most Nations only have MANPAD SPAA,and those that aren’t are quite poor systems (Rapier and no Damage, French Roland with extremely limited elevation, or the Chaparral which has a multitude of issues

Similar case with the Saab-105 and Javelin
Yak-15P and Strikemaster/A-1H

and its not even like the Saab-105, Strikemaster or A-1H are struggling Air to Air, even while laden

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Yeah… Let alone anything and everything below about 9.0?

The system just isnt used for early jets and props at all

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The Su-30MKI has about four different ARH missiles integrated on it (MICA-EM, R-77, Derby-ER and Astra Mk1) and many indegenious, israeli and russian guided air to ground weapons. So it does bring more weapons than the baseline Su-30SM in the russian tree

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The hunter has been in the game for a long time though, splitting BRs on game mode is relatively new and gaijin said is a slow rollout, so a new place hopefully will come with it built in.

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There is slow roll out and the glacial pace they have at the moment, Has a single (old) aircraft gotten split BRs since they were introduced a year ago?

Also, the Hunter F1s should have gone down to 8.7 a year ago when the Sabres did. If the HF-24 remains so low, then its just a further insult to the British aircraft that been struggling for years

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I agree on the hunter and imo the venom should also have gone down, but I give up on asking for those things ha. I am just hopium that my new 8.x(?) jet will line up nicely with my Indian tanks and be fun in air RB still xD

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Based upon initial stats and glimpses of its performance. If its any lower than 9.0 then I will be very annoyed because i’ve been asking for the Hunter F1 to go down for months and has thus far been ignored and this thing outperforms the Hunter F1

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Pe-8 is one.

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so its a more modernised su30sm with a missiles we already have pretty much

let all the other nations get at least 1 new top tier jet before asking for more stuff

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Let’s see how this plane will be at 7.7.

At the least, I like to spam OP planes.

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7.7. At some point I might run into it with Ta152 when squadding, that will be fun.

Mr Tank, let’s see how much you have improved your skills over a decade.