Neither, with the terrible acceleration on stock, you gotta suffer and rely on scouting at long distances and maybe causing some damage with the HEATFS round.
The situation would be different if Gaijin never implemented that terrible wheel interaction to the terrain, making wheeled vehicles unreliable in most scenarios.
This vehicle never should be event, at least tech tree that’s a better option.
this is litterally stock grind pain, Im used to it.
I didnt expected for event vehicle to be super OP…litterally to me its only to help me have lineup at that BR so I can grind…
Also IMPO event or premium vehicles are not even CLOSE to vehicle from tech tree, like not even remotly close
I’m pretty shocked about this one.
It moves extremly slow. A slight slope and you barely do 20 km/h. It takes ages to even reach 50 km/h. Even on road?? Acceleration /Traction is meh. Not a single time I reached the 100 km/h top speed. Maps aren’t flat or big enough to reach that speed. At the end any Leopard 1 tank, Tam, Radkampf have far better mobility at lower BRs.
Its too big. Very hard to find cover and to blend into map’s landscape. So ambushing is not that easy to do.
Its too vulnerable. I’m dying to cal50 and rifle calibre MGs fired frontally. Every AA, Everything kills you from any direction. The amount of spall is crazy. The armor of that Boxer thing is really low. Super thin plates everywhere. But if KE penetrated, it spalls like a 2m thick nera array. Where is the “no armor is best armor” effect you have on most other light vehicles? Together with its huge size its a super suicidal combination. Spiced up with that ammo inside the turret rear, which always lights up if hit. And its always hit^^ Even low pen autocannons penetrate your turret front and light up the turret ammo.
The 105mm gun with 5 sec reload is ok. The LWS and the thermals are nice as well. But usefull just on big maps. Wich are rare. All this you have with the 10.3 TAM anyways. Which isn’t spalling that much and is much, much smaller with alot better mobility. Also no suicidal turret ammo storage/autoloader.
I will just spade this thing and foreget about it. Other vehicles of the same or lower BR are better.
Jesus…its just too big for the way most of the maps are designed. Its almost double as high as a MBT.
Radkamptwagen at 10.0 is alot faster, alot more mobile, less sluggisch. Also with 105mm gun. So…
I find this Vehicle to be fun to play. Although I have not spaded it yet. I’m not saying it’s a great vehicle. If fun is the most important metric this one is a blast!
It doesn’t help that my bug report on the engine got closed based on incorrect assumptions and information.
https://community.gaijin.net/issues/p/warthunder/i/kdkPYnvfJVZP
I got better matches, even, very few, better matches with Type 16 (P) with HEATFS compared to other few I had with the Boxer MGS. I doubt it will be more than 30GJN in the marketplace, at least for a long period of time.
The camo is made by Reinhmetal, the direct competitor of the Boxer manufacturer. It’s like having a BMW livery on a Mercedes…
Seriously Gaijin
It’s known the engine is incorrect but moderators refuse to accept valid sources, transmission gear ratio is probably as well, it should be able to reverse up very steep slopes.
The total weight of the MGS is also in question since they have specifically mentioned the turret module weighs around what 8 tonnes? Correct me if I’m wrong, but the base boxer drive module is 27.5 tonnes + mission module including the turret is 8 tonnes, the real weight is 35.5 tonnes which would make more sense for their claims it being an a2. So it should be just as fast as the villas.
Hence why I’ve been calling this a paper vehicle. Armor amap is wrong protection wise, the model is a remodeled vilkas chassis, it’s missing plates still as well. Theres no way you have a 38 tonne vehicle having less effective armor than a m1128.
I’ve already posted a lot of sources stating it’s 360 degrees protected by 14.5mm but still crickets. If you’re gonna give us a slow vehicle increase the armor or increase the speed and leave the armor.
You’ve already demonstrated to the player community again this year you have full intentions to release vehicles how you see them, not based on fact or fiction of information online from government sources.
But I still stand very firm that this vehicle is an A3. It’s only a matter of time the information becomes more detailed and gaijin and the moderators have to fold.
Even A3 prototypes demonstrating new installations of uprated suspension for the rch155 can be up armored for much more intense combat if necessary.
The only thing consistent about WT is the inconsistency, this time, how god awful the horizontal rotation drive is modeled on the Boxer, as a HUGE piece with the turret basket that breaks if you’re even looked at funny.
(It’s correct on the Patria)
Click “I have same issue” please…
https://community.gaijin.net/issues/p/warthunder/i/F9Y7FuWK0tKN
And is it just me, or does it seem illogical to not have spall liners in a critical spot, right in front of the crews’ faces?
Crew position is incorrect turret crew should have their foreheads just at the turret ring, bulk heads and spall liner for the hull and drive module are missing from all angle sides top and bottom.
It’s completely misrepresented. Ammo in the hull should also be bulk-headed which it isn’t still.
Oh and the CAN bus isn’t modeled instead shows as a bunch of car batteries along the mission module for an easy side shot. Even though the can bus is very public information.
You need to adjust your play style. The height is actually an advantage, just like with the US M1128’s, but this time you have -10 degrees of gun depression. Use it.
Other user’s comment about height:
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Especially while spading it, just take in 13 rounds of ammo. Problem solved. If you are dying that fast, no point in taking enough ammo for the entire team lol.
If you are getting killed by MG’s, you are way too close to the front line. It’s a light tank, all light tanks are super squishy. I play light tanks 90%+ of the time, and there are only a handful that can withstand 50 cal MG’s. Not unique to the Boxer. If you do need to go face first some, lead with your LEFT front so that the engine and transmission protect your crew a little more.
Having said all that, the Boxer is not my favorite light, but you can use its height, -10 degrees depression, and 5 sec reload to your advantage. Oh, also try reversing into firing position, so you have full forward acceleration “back” to cover. AND last tip, use commander view+commander fire for shooting over hills. You can expose a lot less of your turret doing that. Cheers bro.
My thoughts exactly, I knew it was going to just be a big wheeled bulky tank with DM63, no armor and no crewless turret, which is honestly the biggest letdown for such a tall profile.
I am selling my Boxer MGS, how much will it cost?
Boxer is already advertised as 360 degrees protected from 14.5mm. All boxer have photo evidence of using double layered amap-b on top of the actual classified plates on the inside which from Australian sources it can resist fire from 2a42 from 500 meters away from the side and completely frontally.
Turret as well is still unprotected from 14.5mm as it’s the German standard for all MRAVs to be able to withstand 14.5mm. So it’s very suspicious the turret can’t even handle .50 calibre when the add on plates are specifically designed chemically to destabilize rounds in armor piercing nature.
Try around 25GJN, yes it’s way too low but you surely get something better with that. Using the Su-25BM as example, has good ordinances. About the performance overall I don’t really know.
I’m considering your effort in this event, 25GJN is a good price, because in no way this vehicle has some good value but the effort you put in this event, CT-CV 90105 is around this price range 20-30GJN.
Price is reverse-“skyrocketing” rn
