So you have no source if it is an A2.
A3 is not a prototype, no where in the MTU article does it state this. It also again only states the first A3 boxer for BRITIAN a CUSTOMER, not GERMANY.
So at the point that the British made the order for the Boxer A3 in 2019 and the point at which the first Boxer was delivered in 2022, Artec was just twiddling their thumbs? And then two years later the A3 just popped into existence? You don’t think they would have performed tests to demonstrate the A3s load capacity?
I think it would still all need to be discussed on the same standards.
Else the stuff sadly never is able to get it fixed when trying to back it up with sources.
As a result we all need to work with what the devs accept. And tech mods specialy should be hold to the high standard simce they know best qhich sources will be accepted
The year is the biggest proof, what more do you have to offer?
Do not ignore that the two prototypes provided to the British Army were the first Boxer A3 variants to be produced.
They were still producing the Boxer A2 at the time, I thought it was produced until 2021, but I forgot about the Boxers ordered from Lithuania and Australia.
That’s the purpose of the two prototypes delivered to the UK, what more do you want?
Producing A2s is entirely different than upgrading A2s to the A3 standard.
For example the Boxer RCH155 has been in development since 2014 meaning A3 standard has existed since by your same logic.
I means that there was very little empty time, and then the production line was soon replaced for A3.
You’re claiming something completely different is the same thing.
Am I? You claimed something was an A2 from the Janes article, that doesn’t mention A2 for an A3 prototype for increased 2 tonnage weight from the base A3 through upgraded suspension to prevent the wheels from colliding with the chassis in the back. There was no imaginary prototype A3 for the UK. You are spreading misinformation, the A3 standard already existed.
This was a demonstration by ARTEC in 2021 for the UK that they could increase the A3’s max weight for the RCH 155 in the event they needed to up-armor the module. So technically this is an A3+.
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Haha, so it WAS literally an A3…
In case anyone doesn’t have access to Twitter…
Not only that, but it could be the exact same drive module used for the Boxer MGS
Well for one, it’s literally using the A3 Hubcaps. :)
Ok, I admit my previous statement about weight was wrong because I know that twitter came from Nicholas Drummond, the UK manager for KNDS.
However, I agree with the developer’s answer that it will have the TE20 engine since it was first unveiled in 2020, just like before.
Again though, Artec documentation shows that the A2 chassis would not be cleared or capable of carrying the MGS module, it would place it over the 36.5 tonne limit.
In fact, the MGS module probably required the development of the A3.
I think we should see here that the rear module is completely replaced, most likely they adjusted the rear module to fit the weight limit
The drive module and the “mission module” are completely separate parts, intended so that they can be quickly swapped out as needed. The MGS missions module would be too heavy for an A2.
That’s possible, but when they first revealed the vehicle in 2020, they had a hard time putting much power into the vehicle due to COVID-19.
If remove all the equipment for the 8 crew from the existing rear module and install the equipment for the turret and ammunition, it is possible to install it within the weight limit, in which case the in-game weight should be reduced.
DSEI 2017 showcasing the A3 Boxer for UK acquirement, stating it accounts for higher vehicle gross weight.
They mention the ability to mount the RCH 155, so story checks out.
I don’t know where you heard that, but you don’t know anything about it. Also, can you take responsibility for this?
The problem then is the weight of the turret. I have some primary documents on the Cockerill turrets but none mention the weight. Even then, it would be very close to the limit. I suspect that the MGS was a way of demonstrating the improvements brought to the A3 standard as the MGS module was the largest ever mounted on a Boxer up to that point besides the RCH which was from 2016 and probably a mockup at that stage.