General playtest of air-to-air missiles with ARH Seekers (FOX-3)

Because it is a test there is only one vehicle that can use one new missile.

@Stona_WT is it possible for You or someone to include the link to this forum thread in the news related to this playtest. It would be a lot easier for players testing this to find the forum thread easier and provide more feedback ([Development] General playtest of air-to-air missiles with ARH Seekers (FOX-3) - News - War Thunder)?

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i was very excited when i saw this announcement,after playing i only feel very disappointed

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The game mode just isn’t made for this at all.

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Because its a test of the mechanics of the ARH missiles. They are not going to give it to everyone for the test. You dont need 5 planes to test out the 120 you just need one.

But if a player only has top tier Italy (and/or Germany, Sweden, Japan) they can’t participate because those nations aren’t included in the test
It unnecessarily excludes many players from testing the weapons and providing feedback

I mean as far as I understand people who don’t play USA, USSR, Great Britain, China, France and Israel can’t test this mechanics even if they already have top tier jets in Japan, Germany, Sweden or Italy.

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again because its a test not a full roll out. You dont need 5 different planes testing one missile. The person flying the USA f-16 is going to have the same results as the Italian F-16. The JAS39c will have the same results as the Italian variant. They want to keep test numbers smaller to have manageable data. They have piked 6 aircraft to test the 6 new missiles.

The point is to allow players to experience the missiles and provide feedback. Excluding certain nations excludes certain players from experiencing the missiles and providing feedback. If Gaijin just wanted to reduce the amount of data they should have restricted the test to players with Rank VII, the people who actually know how to use the aircraft in the test.

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The aim120a will spaz out and just flop up and down for some reason lol.

Because they would be using one of the 6 missile that are coming into the game. You dont need 5 different aircraft to TEST out mechanics before rolling it out for everyone in a few months. The F-16 in italy would use the 120. The german F-4 again would be the american 120. you dont need to code out all planes to get sample data as the missiles would work the same no matter what plane they are fired from.

Your not missing out on anything from testing if you cant fly one of the testing aircraft nations.

I think that some form of visual or audio que for when the missile begins tracking on its own would be very helpful. This would make deciding when to switch to other targets a lot easier. Also, I LOVE the tacview! It’s laggy but it’s extremely cool and informative. Please keep it!

MICA-EM - Problems:

Range stated as 50km, vs 80km IRL
No lofting → lofting IRL

Many other points are unpar wto what it should be,…

→ Magic-2 “MAGIMP”:
Still missing IFOV reduction / IRCCM seeker shut-off /50G maneuvrability in High energy states thanks to Dual Plane Steering

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The point of testing is to test the mechanics so they can get data and make changes, if you fire a 120 from a german plane, Japanese plane, Italian plane, they all work the same. You feeling left out because you cant do something is not an issue. They have reasons they do the testing they do, and taking your feelings into account isnt par of that.

I’m not left out whatsoever, I’ve got all the Big 4. Seems like you’re projecting in the whole “stop being butthurt”.

This is explicitly

intended for

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Your are projecting, as your are just trying to argue to argue then.

Ad the export sd-10 missile now and give pl-12s to later Chinese aircraft . I think it’s a better way to do it

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aight after playing all the missile carriers.
overall the missiles seem fairly balanced, just with MICA being bit better than rest.
in my opinion, if the toptier lobby size is reduced, with little guidance tweaking AHRs can be realeased right now.

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Is there going to be a playtest event on the live servers as well, or will this be the only playtest event for the ARHs?

i really hope this missile guidence logic isnt permanent lol getting one chaffed and having my missiles bleed all their energy is not fun