Pull above 20g is not necessary unless you are taking garbage shots, and it has drastically less range
Not having an hmd with mica seems pointless i would rather keep it lower if they do split fox 3s away from older aircraft plus magics still have a lot of potential
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The DLZ configuration for the missiles makes the R-77 shorter ranged than the AIM-120A or PL-12 at most altitudes and aspects. It could be wrong, but presumably Gaijin tries to have it roughly correct for how they’ve modeled the missile.
4 would be more than fine considering there performance IRL puts them above AIM120s and R77s anyway, and ide take 4 MICAs over 530Ds any day. heck 4 MICAs vs 530Ds would make its mass less anway so you would arguably still be doing better than M2K-5F in flight performance so trading 2 MICAs for better flight performance is a + in my books
I don’t believe this is correct you can say i’m launching a fox-3 but it also works in saying i’m switching to a fox-3 or if an enemy launch’s one. It is a broad term for ARH missles
FOX 3 is ARH
FOX 1 is SARH
FOX 2 is IR
that hasnt changed since there introduction, if you got actively launched upon the term for that would be Spike and Nails if your on enemy radar in search
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I did not know that but fox-3 is still a broad term for these missiles correct?
Yes its used for all ARHs.
Ok good. I was trying to tell the person I replied to that the thing that he was nitpicking on was wrong
technically it is for the “Launch” of ARHs but unless you wanted to clutter comms by calling out your exact missile name then most pilots would simply use the FOX 3 brevity because well all pilots know FOX 3 refers to ARHs in some capacity.
I mean different players have different preferences.
some want small cqc maps, some want big maps
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Let’s say i’m on the ground and something flys over me and I say oh that has fox’s 3s would that make me wrong even if i don’t know what exact name of ARH it is
Depends how we look at it, Gripen is ‘compatible’ with a ton of different missiles like the AIM-9X, Python 4/5, Derby, A-Darter, Iris-T (I remember reading ages ago about Mica too but would need to look it up)
Picture from SAAB https://www.saab.com/globalassets/products/aeronautics/gripen-c-series/gripen_c_packing-iron
‘Picture shows load options for the South African export-version’. from a book
Seems like it’s just a render from SAAB but at the end of the day it all comes down to if Gaijin allows vehicles in-game to use the missiles that nations actually used, or if they also want to allow missiles that are ‘compatible’.
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Granted if your on the ground I think even a trained eye would struggle to tell ARH and SARH apart from a rapid fly over. if you knew what Jet it was and already knew based on the shape of the missile and what type then yes you would be fine saying it has Fox 3s or 2s or 1s. your not required to call out the exact name of missile.
tbf your average joe might not know what a “fox” brevity is but either way you would be fine saying either if you knew “roughly”
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I am wrong
I literally said this but you also wouldnt call out in comms to your wingman “switching to MICA-EMs” or “R77s” you would still say I’m switching to FOX whatever missile you want to use or they might not even call it out to prevent confusion in comms if the wingman mishears “switching to FOX 3s” but instead hears “FOX 3”
But anyone knows what a FOX 3 is as it specifically only relates to one missile type (ARHs)
Its a pointless debate anyway, FOX 3 is ARHs so its fine saying they are introducing FOX 3s because well they are :D
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I apologize for misleading people. I generally thought fox-3 is something you could call a ARG in any scenario, but I was wrong thank you for helping me understand. I apologize to the person I was trying to correct
Guys is multipathing the same between the new Fox 3’s and older Fox 1?
People are saying so