As i said,it is better than mbt70 and also better than kpz70 wich are 9.3 at 9.0 so that makes sense, as u said is a baby abrams just what i said, a baby abrams cant be at 9.0 just like tanks like the t72 should be at 9.7 or the leopard2k should be a 10.3
I imagine the only reason the XM1C stayed so low was because it was a console exclusive for so long.
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Yep, and now we can say, i was right, btw i think 9.3 is too low, xm1c is a worthy 9.7 tank. The other BR changes are kinda bad, like tiger II at 6.3 or t26e5 at 7.0, idk what gaijin does but they dont know how to balance their game, i really doubt the people that takes this decisions play the game
Where you get the information from?
Both XM-1s are not even 9.0 material scouts 7.3 and 8.3 can kill them from the front not to mention APHE and APCBC normal round from low brs pen it
The only think that have is speed and Thermals comparing it to T-72 that is at 9.3 is pure joke not to mention T-55s
The chance that Gaijin do right now is pure cash grab chance sell the so called exlusive and 2 weeks later chance it’s BR
Nor GM nor Chrisler should go up in BR because of Thermals if you got T-72s at 9.3 and every think can pen you in front even the turret they should stay at 9.0 and GM should go down to 9.0 too
Is this seriously someone arguing that the XM-1’s should be below 9.0?
Are my eyes deceiving me? Is this a dream? What’s happening?
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Skill issue.
I’ll give you a small comparison.
Mbt70 (9.3)
-Big profile
-No survability
-7.5s reload
-Average experimental gun of 152mm
-Max speed of 64.4km/h
-Apfsds with only 285mm pen at that br
-Normal heat with 380mm pen
-Can use slow missiles (no tandem btw)
-It does have lrf
Xm1c (was 9.0, now it will be 9.3)
-Small profile
-Good survability even to 125mm gun (because of the ammount of fuel on the tank)
-6.7s reload
-Good and proved 105mm gun
-Max speed of 75.1km/h (much more than the mbt70 and even more than the kpz70 that does have a better engine than the mbt70)
-Bad apds
-Good heat-fs with 400mm pen
-Good hesh to overpressure or kill tanks hiding that show their mg
-m735 apfsds with 292mm pen
-lrf
-thermals
It is almost an abrams at 9.0.
And hey, before u say something, im a US main and i can see and say when something is holy op. Saying that u can kill it with a 8.3 doesnt make sense since using the same logic u can kill a bmpt with a tiger II but that doesnt mean the bmpt is not op.
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Nvm, he probably bought it and is scared thinking about 0.3 more will change something on the xm1c, he still wants to bully earlier leopard 1 probably. Btw, tanks like t26e5 doesnt make sense moving to 7.0, i would say that T-34 was a better option for the br change since t26e5 is just good when someone that is good uses it
Guys, they announced this earlier for some reason, so it is mostly probably that the changes are coming today. The br changes will be today. Also, scimitar will get the apds at rank I of modifications, and they also listened so it will get apfsds (scout dron is added too)
Dude first XM-1 both of them get killed from 20mm Cannons up front, Ammo burning every game if you not explode you will be left with no ammo at all
Small profile Joke MTB70 have litle bigger turret
Experimental gun 152mm with give you more spalling not to mention you get 20mm and missile
Good and proven 105mm just lol 9.3 material vs 3MB22 at 9.3 - 10.3 not to mention Kontact era 5
Joke comparision is not even close to Abrams if scouts kill you up front with 20mm auto cannon
the only think this tank have is Speed and Thermals it,s should stay at 9.0
U know that xm1c is basically the abrams, just with less armour at 9.0 no?
That’s why is pointless to Argue with people in Forum , seems to me your have no clue what you talking about and Gaijin take to account people like you with chances because you think is OP and bully leopards 1 or you compare MTB-70 to it and in the cherry on top you asking me if i know i Abrams just lol .
One more time
Gun this same gun have M60A3 and this same ammo seems to me you are Main US and again compare it with 152mm just because you need to make idiotic comparision, RISE is 8.7 and TTS is 9 BR
Bully Leo 1 with new Chance A5 is arleady 9.3 with DM23 who bully who here , with Laser RF and Thermals too stop spiting BS.
Leopard 2A5 has the same gun as a Leopard 1 L/44, I guess that means you think the Leopard 2A5 deserves to sit at 9.3 then?
And if you’re talking ammo: The 2S25M at 10.0 has 3BM-60, just like the 12.7 T-90M, does that mean the T-90M should be 10.0?
The XM-1 has absolutely ludicrous mobility for it’s BR, incredibly good gun handling characteristics, solid firepower, thermals, stabilization, laser rangefinders, stupidly fast reverse speed, decent reload, it’s got everything you’d ever want in an MBT and it’s been under-tiered at 9.0 for far too long.
This same Gun and Ammo why you quote the half of it ?
That’s why you two don’t make sense , every time you try to BS your way out with 0 … cells
every leo 1 have this same gun L44 sure but not this same ammo
His was saying about the first Leo with Sabot with 0 consideration the others
- seems to me you two don’t even touch T-72s that now the XM will fight with Contact 5 and Relic not to mention t90s
Congrats…
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Feel free to check my stat card. I play USA, Germany, Russia and Britain all the way up to 12.7, that includes M1’s and T-72’s.
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Who cares if the XM-1 fights Kontakt-5? Maybe don’t aim for the areas that are covered by Kontakt-5?
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Relikt is found on the T-90M, T-90M Arena, T-80BVM, BMPT and T-72B3, none of which are anywhere close to the XM-1’s BR.
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The lowest BR’d T-90 is the T-90S at 10.7, XM-1 is 9.3.
You constantly accuse others of not knowing what they’re talking about, which is certainly ironic.
Dont even talk to him, he never played the xm1c in realistic battles, that is why he is probably strugling with it. Since in arcade u cant have the surprise factor and they can see all your weakspot. Or maybe he is ragebaiting maybe
Does the abrams have bad rounds too?
I unlocked the m1 a while ago and played 1 game and abandonned it as its a very grim experienence while stock.
I hate the XM shells- is it more of the same? As in you cant kill anything if you cant see the full enemy tank?
That you want to be right and that you give an argument lacking in logic is not our fault.
I do, just look at the general stats of the tank and look at what happened when gaijin put the xm1c in sell for everyone, there was a swarm of them, and more people bought it because it was better than the xm1 gm but at a lower br.
M60TTS is really mid because of the lack of mobility and the enormous profile, xm1c have 100% times better mobility, speed and a smaller profile than the m60tts,also, better survability
Used to be US main, now i main all the nations, rn im maining japan.
Because rise doesnt have thermals nor lrf wich are really important in realistic battles, since u play arcade u dont need them.
TTS is an upgraded version with thermals and lrf. Yes, thats why it is 9.0, even when it is not the best 9.0 it is average at everything.
I think leo1a5 was good at 9.3, probably not the best 9.3 but it was actually good, now it will be stronger, but not as the xm1c was.
No. Leopard 1’s family have the L7A3 105mm. But the L/44 have the Rehinmetall120 L/44 120mm, it could be a 9.7 honestly and no one says it couldnt, but the other leopards 1 are not the same, btw, they are good.
Look at my profile, im about to get the T-72B (1989
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No, even if u make Xm1c 9.7 it wont fight relikt, just contact 5, t90 is a 11.0 tank so even in a uptier u wont encounter it. Btw, the only tank with kontakt 5 u will find will be the t72B, just shoot to the same weaskpots u used to, since m735 is not able to pen the frontal chassis of the normal t-72 but u wont struggle to kill it on the same weaskpots u used to kill it. These are the optic of the gunner, the lfp, the driver optic and sometimes even trough the tracks.
U unlock the m774 at rank 4, but it doesnt make that much of a change tbh. The first abrams is not that good,but the ones u get later with the 120mm gun are probably one of the best mbt’s. Btw, kinda hard to learn how to use them, im not pro or something like that, just average/good player and i manage to do good with the abrams.
But yeh, xm1 and abrams have almost the same firepower,both can use the m735 since they have the same gun.
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The advantage is.that with the xm1C u get an abrams with his first apfsds (the m735) but at a br of 9.3 where it is still good