The Tiger has been, just like the Leopard 1, at 5.7 for the majority of the time its been in game. It was 5.7, it moved to 5.3 for a short period then moved back to 5.7. The Jumbo just went up because it was too good, not because they decompressed. It was a normal balance adjustment.
They didn’t in the first place, as I explained:
This is because both the Jumbo went up due to regular balance adjustments as well as the PZ4 going down due to…regular balance adjustments. Not from decompression.
It’s decompression in the same sense that pouring water into a pitcher to the point it is overflowing is “pouring the water” out of the picture. It’s forced, they cram 3 different brackets of tanks into 1 BR and by the time they get ready to add the 4th bracket they realize they cannot do it because of how ridiculous it is. It’s like if you were sitting somewhere I needed to be, I told you that you need to move out the way so I can get by, and you scoot 3 centimeters to the left. Did you move? Yes. Were you “forced” to? In a way yes. Did you really move in any real fashion? No. Practical effect over technicality
That’s not what I’m referring to. I am referring to when multiple straight up generations of tanks inhabit the same battle rating where the newer tanks are just strictly and straight up better than the tanks at the exact same BR because gaijin refuses to raise the ceiling until its bursting at the seams with 4 different power brackets in the same BR. I mean, currently, its still the case. Look at Leclercs and Arietes inhabiting the same BR as the 2A7.
Lower front will usually do next to nothing.
And M4A2 will take your head off.
Hitting above the gun seems like the only decent bet, but mantlets are notorious for being fake green. Would love.to see.if it really works.
Generally, turret.front looks like a typical volumetric hell.
And for me it’s been doing a great work at stopping 75L48, even though the pennable areas are a bit bigger than I remember.
I wonder if the above the barrel shot really works, because that looks like the best place to aim. Firing between mantlet and add-on armor vs Sherman wiggling its turret doesn’t feel like a great idea.
Anyway, that turret is extremely good vs Soviets and Brits.
So Pz IV has a shot at turret weakspot, that’s something.
Meanwhile M4A2 can just annilate.it.with ease.
Problem with that is, M4A2 has also stabiliser and.way better gun handlind. And ehile APCR is horrible, the ROF is so good it sometimes has its use.
When it comes to Germans, the only vehicle I worry about is JP IV. Now tnat thing is DEADLY. Stug IIIG absolutely sucks balls in comparison
Yeah if you shoot the floor. Just shoot the UFP section.
That’s not that difficult honestly, you can see how much green is present. The turret angles also don’t matter much. Even if you hit the M4 turret at a goofy angle the kwk40 is still going in
What it faced when it was first 5.7 is not the same as what it faces now at 5.7, and that’s entirely a result of decompression.
The IS-2 at 6.3 no longer gets to see the M48 which was 7.3 and went to 7.7 together with a massive number of vehicles in its bracket that were moved up. Tiger IIs no longer see the IKV 91 in a full uptier. Etc etc.
When a new top BR step is added, and several brackets down you have several tanks move up at the same time while others stay put, that’s not just an individual balance change. That’s the definition of decompression.
You are being disingenuous. Do you think it’s a coincidence that the Jumbos, Tigers, Panthers and M18s all moved up in the same update? This was not an individual adjustment to an isolated vehicle in its bracket, they took all the top performers from an area and moved them up at the same time.
Moreover, this part:
Well, now the Pz IV is up again. But it no longer sees the Jumbo anyway - in fact it would have to go up by two more steps to see the Jumbo in a full uptier! That’s a product of widespread decompression.
Top tier will never be balanced.
However, a massive chunk of the game is much more balanced than it was previously, and that’s in large part because there is now more space for tanks to move up and down than there was before. Of course, this was still quantitatively very conservative.
But this is exactly why it happens. Because of the structure of top tier.
I mean that top tier is this way by design. It drives premium sales and keeps the bracket populated with both 11.7 premiums and compressed vehicles between 11.7 and 12.7 to provide food for the players in the meta vehicles who also know what they’re doing.
These are 2 narrow vertical bars that you’ll miss vs moving target or at range.
We’re in the “KV-1 is paper” territory, and then I see KV-1 tanking 3 guys firing at it from 400m away for 40s. Why? Because just because a weakspot is there, doesn’t mean you’ll hit it.
And regarding UFP - so there’s a narrow strip that may or may not kill the gunner.
You miss by 10cm down - you die. You miss by 10cm up, you die. You hit perfectly? 50/50.
Also it’s not like M4A2 is not bullying Soviets just fine. I’ve met some high level seal-clubbers in KV-1E and variants of ot and essentialy it was just a matter of driving up to them, as they just can’t do much while I can take out their gun.
Also, what’s your agenda? Are you M4A2 abuser, or can’t play it? Because I can’t find a honest reason to not consider this tank OP.
Then you should try it, as you seem pretty clueless.
You can take all the time you want, you’ll most likely miss and then M4A2 knows your location.
And I’m not talking long range, these weakspots are easy to miss already at a bit over 100m and even closer if the guy is really moving fast/over rough terrain.
Reality is, I’m an M4A2 user and it feels a bit like cheating. Same with Composito. Chaffee also felt this way, now at 4.0 it’s a bit better balanced.
I’d bet the M4A2 could go up to 4.3 with a remodel and armor model changes. Later production turrets had the casting reinforced over the cheek (which is externally visible) to eliminate the weak point present in-game. I’ve heard the differential cover is supposedly a bit more armored overall than as its presented in-game too, so that could possibly also get buffed.
Throw in a small reload buff given the decent accessibility of the turret ammunition, and it should be good to go at 4.3. That would give some room to bump some of the other better Sherman variants up too without need to rationalize them being the same BR as the M4A2.
If you aren’t already trying to engage me in a M4 and I’m in a PZ4, I’ve already killed you. This is incredibly easy to do. Why are we pretending like the M4 is a Jumbo?
id say the M4A2 at 4.0 and panzer IV H and T34E STZ are all equals the only thing that should change is the rank II → III so i can actually play them for challenges PLEASE GAIJIN
id say the G model is fine at 3.7 as it has less armor than the H and can be penned frontally by most things it faces
its pretty equal to the M4 at 3.7
italian one going up is rubbish
the really big issue at this br as that all these tanks are rank II
