I don’t know what else to say. Feel free to check it in-game yourself. It will stop brimstones reliably on the front plate. This is a absolutely a bug, and I feel compelled to bring it to light.
The Brenus armor is tremendously poorly modeled. Not only does it occur as you describe, but it also lacks 100mm of KE protection, which was reported two years ago, but they still haven’t bothered to correct it. Surely if a report is made about this problem, it will be corrected moderately quickly.
https://community.gaijin.net/issues/p/warthunder/i/Z0H3xuwhqEkH
who said it’s wrong? It has very decent angle and is very tight; tighter than Russian T-tanks ERA, which causes more ERA blocks to detonate and nullify the cumulative jet.
That’s how it looks to me at least. M60A3 TTS has great CE protection too but it’s not as dense there as on BRENUS
That only happens for USSR and Germany. They will probably end up nerfing it, simply because its French.
Just looking at the bug reports for the Leclerc, still waiting for the 90km top speed. They only improved the re-load speed because they improved everyone else.
Brenus era now detonates backwards and kills you immediately when hit :))))))
I just checked, it happens to all ERA models. I really don’t know if the ERA actually multiplies its protection based on the angle of inclination or if it has fixed protection. The only thing I do know is that the Israeli Blazer armor is garbage that offers almost no protection.
Except the spots that you’re showing literally has 3-4 ERA plates overlapping… Is this a troll post?
Basic Common Sense. It’s a 50mm ERA block. Why is it protecting more than this?
If a Kornet is so easy to stop with ERA from 30 years ago, why can’t any other significantly more modern ERA-type plate stop it?
The only possible way the Brenus’s ERA can stop 1.6 meters total is if other ERA’s are being treated unfairly.
The same angle. Not the same result.
The M60A3 TTS has the same effective protection of Blazer, which I play with extensively.
Blazer does not take hits like this even in massive chunks.
It does not. While the thickness does increase at an angle, it should not be capable of stopping this much when considering other vehicles with similar protection angles. That is 1.6 meters of chemical protection. The Merkava Mk.4 cannot even stop that much on its thickest plates as seen above. 50mm sloped should not be greater than 600mm sloped at the same angles.
Other ERAs do not have protection levels that high, and not a single modern ERA has protection levels anywhere near this for the thickness, even at those angles.
Oh wow, overlapping plates… a stupidly hard shot to pull off.
Pixel hunting overlapping plates to make a topic is wild bait.
It’s not a “bug”, and it’s not specific to AMX-30.
It’s a consequence of the penetration simulation War Thunder currently uses.
Definitely Pixel hunting :/
Aside from the weaker driver side, the front plate is nearly immune to all chemical attacks. Even from Tandem warheads.
The green you see is the tiny gaps between ERA that exist.
There’s a recent bug affecting tandem ATGMs where they fail to negate ERA, which leads to ERA providing the same protection against tandem ATGMs as it would against non-tandem ATGMs and HEAT rounds. There’re several bug reports about it but none have received much attention for some reason.
Example with the CM-11:
HEAT round: ~860 mm
Non-tandem ATGM: ~860 mm
Tandem ATGM: ~830 mm, basically the same protection, pens purely due to incredible raw penetration
According to this bug report (Community Bug Reporting System) it might only be a problem with the protection analysis. Still pretty annoying though.
This is a better explanation to what is happening because this is a Tandom warhead.
Again, all those overlapping plates are just that… overlapping plates.
It’s a universal thing across the entire game.
It is a Tandem Warhead Alvis.
Despite the screenshot shown, I doubt this even works in-game. Never had issues penetrating anything with the Khrizantema-S specially the AMX-30B2 Brenus in the very few times I played it and faced it in a match. And comparing ERA and NERA isn’t showing real and fair comparison, Merkava doesn’t use ERA, it uses composite NERA armor.
I am not entirely sure if it works in-game, but it is not supposed to happen.
It’s supposed to act as ERA because it is not actually NERA. It can be blown off.
The bigger issue is that the Merkava is supposed to have the best chemical protection in-game and doesn’t.
it is NERA though
It’s not. The game says it is, but NERA doesn’t blow up like ERA when struck. The Merkava’s armor does.
The devs have been incredibly lazy with the Merkava’s modeling.
Developers prefer to spend their working time modeling new premium vehicles. After a while, people who complain stop complaining, and then they buy those new premium vehicles in addition to the premium account. A great business.
ah, speaking of gamewise I dunno