Not to mention that the whole cupola might have just got clean ripped off from the tank, depending on the round.
Some damage should just be “sever” leading to a destroyed vehicle instead of a fully functioning tank by the time the other tank was able to shoot once or twice.
APCBC, only very few use APHE if any
More pay to win from a change to APHE? WTF are you on about?
The hell did I miss
PzGr 39 on the Panzer IV and PzGr 39/42 on the Panther have around 28g of explosive equivalent, these changes might as well almost make the shells solid AP if they were passed, kind of funny.
create a topic about that.
So if the vote for change fails, and the spherical damage model remains… then APHE receives a BIG BUFF to damage due to the improvements they are adding that we do NOT get to vote on.
Madness. Complete madness.
If the change fails to happen the game will be even more bias in favour of APHE.
Guess what pal, German and Russian tanks are going to one-shot vehicles that I like to play regardless of whether the change goes through or not.
As an American main I live by the motto “don’t be seen, don’t get hit.” I’d rather be able to keep doing damage.
Ah, like how they nerfed the economy and made entire tech trees and vehicle types playable without bankrupting yourself?
Lot of aphe /apcbc, but lot of german comes with heat and/or apcr
It’s not a vote for a change, it’s a vote for a TEST
Their APCBC is APHE. The HE component is just ommited from the name, but the rounds have explosive filler and fuses that make the round explode inside enemy tanks.
Be real. How many of those rounds do players actually use, other than niche cases or literally not understanding how they work? :P
survivability of the crew will play a much bigger role.
Good to know most of the War Thunder community hasn’t lost all their braincells to tiktok/shorts and is voting against this.
they changed those a (long) while back, it was a nightmare.
plot twist: you can upgrade your crew FREE :O
How is that pay to win?
Go on, explain
You are absolutely right. The key to this problem is the extreme imbalance of deaths between the APHE and all other ammunition, but I think that rebalancing the APHE would be ``for now’’ the best, because think, gaijin has needed 10 years to at least make a vote for the APHE issue, something that in the first year you already realize is not right, well imagine how long it would take to do something that affects the game more, for example, notice how gaijin has not said anything about their penetration formula, which is shitty garbage, but they are not going to change it.
*One German tank
The Tiger has a round, Pzgr, that overpressures. It has lower pen than the other round that doesn’t.
Panthers can’t, Tiger II can’t, PZ IVs can’t.
With this change to APHE behavior? You’d be surviving a good bit more punishment from them.