Following the Roadmap: grouping vehicles, rank changes, and improvements to premium vehicles

My little suggestion: dont move vehicles between TT branches unless it is decided by vehicle category (eg.: putting TDs together)
Moving them left and right can ruin careful research planning when someones goal is a certain top tier tech.

It would be nice to get the finalized version of the trees, along with the new RP and SL changes for ranks VI and VII soon. So we can start to prepare for the upcoming sales.

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Israel is the least updated nation and in every new patch that comes by I see that Israel is often excluded from changes while a majority of nations are somehow updated.
Why does this keep happening? There are literally dozens of open bug reports, hundreds of suggestions, and nothing is acted upon.

Now I have F-16 ADF but I researched but did not buy F-16A, when they will be grouped, will I have to purchase F-16A to research F-16C Block 50?

depends on the dev server, if they group the f16c after the a as well, you will need to research it

F-16A is researched I just have not bought it and I doubt F-16C would be foldered and have its RP Cost %50 reduced. F-14B is a good example

I would like to suggest to the devs that all 10.0 and up IFVs/Light tanks be moved to rank 7, so that their Scout UAVs have access to thermal optics

It doesn’t make sense that some 10.0 vehicles like the TAM and M1128 MGS have rank 7 status and a drone with better optics, but some like the M3A3 Bradley and PUMA don’t.

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This is honestly a pretty garbage work on the foldering. People want similar vehicles to be foldered, so they don’t have to research the same vehicle multiple times. This though is simply a hodge podge of folders for vehicles that were next to each other in the tech tree, instead of a more sensical foldering of similar vehicles, so that you’ll actually be able to easily know where each vehicle is foldered. If I’m looking for where you put the M48 Super, I’m going to look next to the M48A2 G, not the KPZ-70, a vehicle it has nothing in common with it. This is just going to be annoying and confusing. Just folder the many many very alike vehicles instead, because then we’ll know what catagory to look under. What you have done here is listen to how much people have been telling you to folder vehicles so we don’t have to research essentially the same vehicle over and over so we don’t waste our RP, and all you heard was “Folder vehicles, got it” so now next to nothing changed of significance. I could easily draw up a much more cohesive tech tree of all of these by myself in a week.

It’s quite frustrating too because this is the change that made me consider getting back into war thunder for, but the folders are so horrendous, that I’d rather them not be changed at all. But if you take this as an opportunity to back down and do nothing while pretending that you tried, everyone will see right through it. If this is coming off as aggressive feedback, sorry, but this change upsets me how horrible you could make it.

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Will there be any changes to the number of vehicles needed to unlock different ranks for any of the tech trees?

I haven’t seen this disclosed, but it could have a major impact. Based on the proposed new tech trees some would have to change just because there aren’t enough vehicles (e.g., Sweden Air rank 4).

Is there any chance for us to continue research or buy the vehicles which im researching now after the update? I have some vehicles researching which will be moved to other locations after the update. I have no idea if I can complete the research and purchase in time before the update.

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hi everyone! do we know anything about the rp after the grouping? I mean if a tank now costs 220,000 rp and after the update goes to 110,000 and i have already researched 210,000 rp for this tank, after the update what will happen? I will get the tank and the rest 100,000 rp will become free to use in the next tank, will it consume all of the rp and give me the tank or will it make me research the rest 10,000 to get it because i started it before the update? Or the worst case scenario, erase all of the rp i have gained and restart it?

Propably it go to “Free EXP” which you can convert from GE :)

Good job men :) I wish that Gaijin read it and hear you and us :)

Would be nice if it worked like the current new vehicle implementation, so we have few weeks to research and buy the moved vehicles.

Which no one uses.

On other game with tanks there is some points for free use, but gajin try monetize evrything. It be pretty good when you can use free exp for free and research parts of stock machines.

Hey guys - I don’t know if it’s too late to add feedback to this, but I was revisiting the US 8.7-9.0 range, and it occurred to me that while you’re moving things around, you should really put the FJ-4B back to the “fighter” classification, and maybe move it above the F3H. As an attacker, with Skyhawks existing at the same BR with vastly superior loadouts, there’s no reason to use it - whereas as a fighter-bomber, it would provide a very useful niche in ground battles around its BR. Thanks for your time. I’m excited for the changes.

When you say grouping similar vehicles, did you mean vehicles with similar playstyles or placing variants of a vehicle into a foldered group?

Some of the vehicles that were grouped on the dev server have significantly different playstyles with the only similarity between them being that they are of the same vehicle class.

Is the plan going forward to stop grouping vehicles by variants into vehicle folders and to group vehicles with similar br in the same tech line?

While I am pleased to see the reduction of RP for foldered vehicles, I am concerned with what actually is being gained by the players?

What point is there when the amount reduced will be recuperated from the increased costs of the modifications since they are then treated as ‘end of the line’ vehicles?

If for instance lets take a rank VIII vehicle that costs normally 410k RP, is reduced to 200k RP being foldered with another vehicle, that’s great… until you notice that instead of normally being ~315k for researching modifications on the vehicle, it is now ~525k RP for modifications since it is now treated as an end of the line vehicle…

As seen, this means that the amount reduced for the vehicle being in the folder was then gained back (sometimes even with interest) from the modifications… so you end up having to earn more RP to spade the vehicle than you normally would have if you had unlocked it through current methods.

Now, obviously there are some differences, but still in the overall scheme, it seems like the folder of these vehicles will be more detrimental to overall research than what we have now… So in a sense, with the new foldered vehicle changes, we are most likely going to be working even harder to spade vehicles…

Granted, YES… you will be able to UNLOCK the vehicle for use faster and ALSO be able to progress through the tree faster… but as we all know, the stock vehicle… is not ideal as the true performance is gained through unlocking the modifications to better perform against adversaries. So if your intention is to use the foldered vehicle, please be advised about this.

So… how do we go forward with this type of information… As far as I know this is how it is going to be upon release of this new change… Is this the intention? Obviously this will also coincide with SL costs, whereas in the proposed changes will cost you MORE to spade a vehicle both RP and SL than what we have now.

If I am completely wrong in my understanding, please feel free to provide input, but for now this is how I see it as the changes will be in place.

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