I do perfectly fine with it. My best 12.7s are the yak141 the mig29 and the mirage2k, I got similar efficiency of kills/score between these and they are all fantastic in my opinion
I don’t think the mig29 should be undertiered. If you can’t do well it it I’ll say its a skill issue. R-27ERs at that BR are essentially 2 easy kills, and I can often get about 2 more kills with the remaining 4 r60m if I get time and opportunity to use all my loadout because games end so fast.
The main issue with 12.7s, all of them not just the mig29, is that more often than not you’ll be partially or full uptiered.
Most 13.0s are way better than 12.7s and that just 0.3BR above, nevermind the 13.3 and 13.7s that you will constantly face. So avoid 12.7 for now if you are having issues till gaijin wakes up and does some decompression around those BRs
Thanks for the reply. I understand the balance reasons, but it still doesn’t feel fair for the MiG-29. The Su-27 is 0.3 BR higher and has 8 missiles, while the MiG-29 only has 6 (2 radar + 4 R-60MK, which aren’t great). Adding R-73s or lowering the BR would make the MiG-29 much more balanced and enjoyable.
I also doesnt feel fair for the mirage 2000k or the F-16AJ or the yak141 or the F-18A/C early that the su-27 is 0.3BR higher. Almost forgot about the poor Netz
It has 10 and that includes up to 6 R-73s (though most people will only carry 4), better FM and more countermeasures. All for the low low price of one BR step.
Sounds good, they are totally game breaking OP. Shouldnt be available on anything below 13.3.
Sure, but would increase its BR to 13.0.
Was it? I have yet to see an accepted bug reports for the Mig-29 FM being wrong. Sure, I also havent gone looking for them. But Ive seen a lot of claims about it being “nerfed” without actually citing any bug reports that are accepted showing its underperforming. Just because it was “more fun” isnt a reason to allow it to overperform. It is not fun for everyone else
Its a solid 12.7 in its current state. If it drops to 12.3, then many 12.3s should drop to 12.0
12.0 - 13.0 is heavily compressed though, few aircraft in that range are overly healthy
That old flight model was over performing especially in terms of max lift.
This new flight model is much more accurate.
It adheres to sustained turn rate charts pretty well, slightly over performing some areas and slightly underperforming at low speed.
The only thigh i can find wrong with it is maybe the aoa it takes to actually sustain those turns, but there’s very little hard evidence of that, unfortunately Russia doesn’t do their em diagrams with bleed rates like the west does so it’s hard to accurately model the turn when it’s outside the sustained turn rate charts
Yep, which is what I thought. This is the soviets we are talking about. if it was underperforming. It would have been fixed ages ago. Just look at the Mig-23s, iirc, they are all overperforming still, intentionally
Yup, was gonna make a bug report on the mig 23 ml overperforming by 0.5 to 1 g at almost all speeds but then I realized it’s gonna be tossed in the trash like all the f5 bug reports lol