?nick=justelonely
Pretty sure you did just that with this link man
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Great way in taking only what you are interested in from a whole link…
Also, pretty sure this is a link:
https://warthunder.com/en/community/userinfo/?nick=justelonely
I don’t know what you call it at your place, but at my place it’s a link that opens another web page…
And the rules say not to slip the player’s name not to put links.
As I already said this is a link:
Not the player’s name if not there would be a space, grammatically I am right, so avoid grasping at straws. The speech I made is consistent with the main post and should not suffer any obscuration.
At any rate, I do understand your frustration . . . cheaters suck, no one(but a cheater I guess) will deny that. But you may want to look at the bigger picture. Currently there are almost 186k players logged into the game, with 4250 battles going on. And these battles cannot be “looked at” by staff members while they are going on, so . . . . they have to rely on the players to make proper/valid reports for something to go on. The number of “staff” members that can & do deal with these things is quite small in comparison. Add on top of that somewhere around 80% of all reports that are sent in are invalid/improper and just plain pointless, the Game Masters still have to go thru every single one of them . . . because without checking, who knows for sure, yeah? Reports of cheating have to be done via the Server Replay making note of the time of any incidents being reported . . and then viewed manually . . . you have any idea how much time that might take per report? Point being, the staff are massively outnumbered and do the job(most are volunteers btw and do their jobs for the love of the game, nothing else) as best they can with what they have to work with. Without player’s help . . well, you get the idea.
Game Masters aren’t DJ’s, they don’t do requests and cannot give preferential treatment . . just to be fair to everyone . . . which is a good thing. Making demands, going “head hunting” after certain players seems like a huge waste of time. And I think it is best not to take/make things “personal”, especially on the internet. Except for these “Fair Play” lists, punishments are kept private between the game and those getting them, this is also a good thing. Seeking Revenge, Vengeance or “Justice” in an online video game . . . I dunno . . seems best to “let it go” or be a duck . . . let the water roll off your back and move on to something more positive . . . or even FUN! . . . just my opinion . . hope you can get past all of this
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and the link goes directly to a player profile listing their name and everything else about them . . . that is literally naming & shaming . . . lol
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Im sooo sorry but I just dont have time playing the game then going thru replay after I finished especially on PS5… I get they cant be watching every game thats logical, but then you invest in anti-cheat system that will catch all these losers ruining fun for all of us… nothing else will help, trust me, this whole thing with players reporting its not it since a lot of wrong reports and thats just waste of time…
Also I just hate when people are saying “there are cheaters but not that much” and then you have +10k players banned every month…
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Now, imagine being a staff member that has to go thru all the reports that are made, and again, vast majority are not valid, but still have to be checked . . . and for every “good” report made, there are several others that could be good and help stop a player using illegal things to get advantage . . . but the staff, just doesn’t know, because someone . . . couldn’t be bothered …
And the “Fair Play” ban waves do not come every single month, there is not really a set schedule that I am aware of, and “+10k” is an exaggeration, by a good deal . . . just a made up number . . . these things are not helpful
Now we clarify… The link leads to another web page where the rules of this forum do not apply, so let’s avoid making false excuses… Lol
That is straight up false the rules here are also applied to any site that Gaijin owns.
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I have heard enough.
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again I gave you solution but you igrnore it…
Oh its not 10k its this month 7.5k month before 10k+…like tf you trying to do, oh you hate truth??? I know it hurts but it is iwhat it is…
I still didnt se any moderator od Admin saying “:Yeah anticheat would help everyone”… just lazy lazy lazy
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lol . . . I see no “solution” being offered by you, and perhaps you making up numbers to try to strengthen a weak point is considered the “truth” where you are from, but accuracy and presenting facts as points falls more into what “truth” is considered where I am from. Again, I as I stated earlier, no one likes cheaters, and yes I would be very happy if the game had ZERO, but until that happens, all any of us can do is work within the system already in place as best we can and yeah . . . that means taking an active role by all the players too. If you don’t want to help, that’s up to you, but as the saying goes . . . . “if you’re not part of the solution, then you’re part of the problem” . . . getting mad, being argumentative here on the Forums isn’t helpful to anyone . . . . that’s all. Try being more pragmatic and look at the issues from more than one narrow point of view . . it can’t hurt.
Good Luck
I mean just read my post next time and dont hate for no reason…
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I did read that, not really much of a “solution” tho, vague and no very “realistic” . . . just a “wish”. And there is no hate . . . lol, you’re the one always “projecting” and attacking anyone and everyone that does not share you point of view . . we all have opinions, try respecting others as well as demanding it for yourself.
Not everyone is going to agree with you just as you won’t agree with everyone else . . . kinda how the world works . . . it’s a video game . . . relax . . most of us are here to have fun.
You blame Gaijin for not having good enough “anti-cheat”, then offer no alternative … . this is a complaint, not a solution . . . you can do better
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Its litterally standard in multiplayer games… but all good all love my man
I blame them for not having any anti cheat… like dont tell me you find legite a anitcheat you need to install on your PC? common thats not how its done…
BUt doesnt matter I just find soo stupid that something like wall hacks cant be detected its laughable to me… game is 12 years old like there are terabits of data that todays AI can learn in a few months… Just laughable…
But all love my man
I share some of your views regarding other topics (despite your phobia vs paragraphs), but this wall of text:
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…is actually a mix of conclusions based on opinions and not facts.
On top of that - i have zero clue why you feel the need to present such statements in the first place as most cheats deal with game modes without enemy markers (and the cheats are there to get markers). So if you play 60k arcade battles but just 2k realistic battles you might not be as affected as other players.
To make a long story short:
- WT is a highly popular game - popular games attract cheaters. This will never change. If players invest real money (and time) they can expect that the game provider guarantees a cheater free game play experience.
- Gaijin is in charge to prevent cheating with all measures possible; that means technical measures and manual measures. Even admitting that no game seems to be cheater free as soon as it is somehow competitive there is nothing wrong with the expectations of fair players that gaijin fights cheating with maximum strength.
- Highlighting that from your pov cruicial infrastructure within gaijin is staffed with volunteers is actually counterproductive for your arguments. If you think this through you actually imply that gaijin would assess cheating as a not really important issue.
- Last but not least you overestimate the role of GMs in this process. Afaik they are not in charge for perma bans, this is done by gaijin employees GMs don’t even know. If you are able to quote any claim of any GM that he perma banned a player for cheating - please share it.
My recommendation towards gaijin:
- Try to close the gap between expectation levels of players (=cheater free game experience) and reality (almost every game has cheaters) with pure honesty and reward actual useful player reports with a small GE reward.
- “Do the right thing and talk about it” - nobody prevents gaijin from taking serious actions vs the providers of those cheats. Publishing some legal actions vs the distributing websites in regular intervals looks way more effective than perma ban the end users of cheats - knowing that they will come back with another ip address.
- Be creative! Pay some real good players to hunt down reported cheaters - and force them to rage quit if cheating is confirmed. Publish vids of those actions!
I try to use the term “Staff” as often as possible, because. . . I do not know where the line is drawn specifically anymore and even if I did, I couldn’t say as I have signed a NDA many years ago. I try very hard to keep my word. The GM’s do however, have an immense workload and if players actually knew/understood the extent of it, I think attitudes and opinions towards them might be a lot different.
And I am voicing my opinions based on the things that I know, and don’t “call out” people for the sake of being “right”.
I however don’t like seeing misinformation, opinions and rumors being passed off as fact . . it’s not really helpful. And in the end, I feel like most of us want to the game to get better, and still make Gaijin a reasonable profit(and yeah, that’s subjective too . . lol) so as to keep the game going. Even tho some on this Forum and what I see in the chats in game seem bound and determined to tear it down, because . . . . reasons.
It’s an online video game, played by people from all over the world, many different nations, cultures with widely varying beliefs and customs . . and it’s on the internet . . . so . . . . yeah . .
Thx for using paragraphs!
Spreading opinions and rumors is part of (almost) every interaction on social media - this forum is no exception - and everybody is free to express fact-free opinions.
Regarding your wording “misinformation” (hidden as imho off-topic):
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I am not sure if you are a native English speaker or not, but you might looks up the definition of “misinformation” - and where and by whom and in which context it is mostly used.
Even such a unreliable source like wikipedia are imho somehow correct:
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Terminology
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Misinformation is often used as an umbrella term to refer to many types of false information; more specifically it may refer to false information that is not shared to intentionally deceive or cause harm.[20] Those who do not know that a piece of information is untrue, for instance, might disseminate it on social media in an effort to help.[21]
Disinformation is created or spread by a person or organization actively attempting to deceive their audience.[10] In addition to causing harm directly, disinformation can also cause indirect harm by undermining trust and obstructing the capacity to effectively communicate information with one another.[10] Disinformation might consist of information that is partially or completely fabricated, taken out of context on purpose, exaggerated, or omits crucial details.[22] Disinformation can appear in any medium including text, audio, and imagery.[22] The distinction between mis- and dis-information can be muddy because the intent of someone sharing false information can be difficult to discern.
Malinformation is accurate information that is disseminated with malicious intent.[21] This includes sensitive material that is disseminated in order to hurt someone or their reputation.[21] Examples include doxing, revenge porn, and editing videos to remove important context or content.[23]
Misinformation is information that was originally thought to be true but was later discovered not to be true, and often applies to emerging situations in which there is a lack of verifiable information or changing scientific understanding.[24] For example, the scientific guidance around infant sleep positions has evolved over time,[25] and these changes could be a source of confusion for new parents. Misinformation can also often be observed as news events are unfolding and questionable or unverified information fills information gaps. Even if later retracted, false information can continue to influence actions and memory.[26]
Rumors are unverified information not attributed to any particular source and may be either true or false.[27]
Definitions of these terms may vary between cultural contexts.[28]
The problem with “misinformation” on social media boils down that mostly others (as seen in the past governments or MSM in general) define what is “misinformation” and what not - based either on political/ideological agendas or simply because the so called “misinformation” are actually true but they don’t fit into certain narratives.
We had in the recent past a lot of social and economic pressure to follow certain official “recommendations” based on factually wrong statements (“there are no side effects of taking this”) and everybody questioning this was a conspiracy theory spreading “misinformation” - years later it turned out that those guys were actually right.
So if some players express that they are not happy with gaijin’s efforts vs cheaters it is imho the sole responsibility of gaijin to change this perception.
Have a good one!