Fair Play: January 2024 and CAPTCHA

I happen to know a funny story.
Last year there were two squadrons accusing each other cheating after a squadron battle,and the funny thing is, most of them DID cheat,but most squadron leaders remain “innocent”,although they teamed with cheaters a lot and got very good K/D,they still just repeat"we know nothing",“we are victims too”.

I guess, but god damn. Why would you bot the least efficient modes in the game? Other than, I guess, no one really pays attention to them.

Who knows? Maybe it was a Gaijin test account from the first closed beta, and someone figured out the password was 1234 and then sold it to a cheater.

Not acting based on evidence after being informed is a lot different than Gaijin randomly banning people and name and shaming a squadron.

I’ve also seen WT staff play with cheaters, you can’t really proof if that’s intentional or not in some cases.

If they were “randomly” banning people I would agree.

For all intents and purposes they are, unless if you somehow knew all 9.569 players were cheaters and botters before hand.

No they’re not. Random banning, which is what you are now asserting they are doing (on zero evidence I can see), would be if you or I had a small chance of being permabanned tonight. But nah… I have extremely high confidence you and will both be here tomorrow (sigh).

You have made the extraordinary claim that all Gaijins account bans are randomly selected. The burden of proof now lies on you, not me, to provide your extraordinary evidence for such a claim.

Clearly I’m not suggesting they ban randomly, but rather that from our perspective it’s entirely random as we have no prior knowledge of who is getting banned and when, and thus squadrons leaders also can not anticipate this.

This u?

Still u?

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Yup, because it’s still random from my point of view, one day they’re playing and the next day they’re banned, I don’t know why or when, so they get randomly banned.

For those unorganized squadrons,this won’t harm their reputation too much,a cheater randomly entered a squadrons,and this is it.

But if squadrons are “organized” and the hacker rate is extremely high. there is a problem.

If cheaters make it so easy as to gather in one place it seems Gaijin should have no issue banning and keeping track of them without the community have to do the work yet again.

Do you know anyone who’s been “randomly banned”?

Every military base I have worked on in every country has a sign that says “never pass a fault”, or “the standard you walk past is the standard you accept”. I find it’s a good principle whether in the military or not.

Everyone in a squadron who allowed a cheater to play got squadron RP from cheating the whole time. Through their inattention or the microculture they created in that squadron, they accepted that lower standard. They can be shamed, no problem. It’s just payback.

In any case, if they’re on this list, they’re already gone. Other than kicking them out of squadron to get the slot back for another new player and scrub off the Discord, there’s nothing a squadron needs to do for any of these names.

Bots yes,Cheaters no
Gaijin still need evidence to ban them,if the squadrons are infamous,players would report more suspicious action, and Gaijin have more opportunity to ban them.

What you call “having to do work” some of us call “living up to some principles of basic human accountability.”

For example the infamous "shoti"s
Those squadrons leaders should be banned if they have connection with bots.

You keep taking ‘random’ literally when I’ve already clarified it.

No squadron ‘‘allows’’ these things as if they have knowledge or control over it, there’s a 127 people in squadron and no one is out there checking their replays or whatever, unless you personally play with them, and even then it’s unlikely, you won’t know they’re cheating.

Only a few squadrons are participating in competitive events and such.

It’s not basic human accountability to go out of their way and infiltrate a cheater community in order to get hands of the source code so you can give it to a company.

Goodyoung, the commander, was banned (ironically, for ground botting). That was an extreme example from last year that Miragen clearly forgets of one player running a 100-navalbot farm to get max squadron rewards for him and a couple friends.