What do you mean by “ban wave”. I read these ban posts as meaning these bans are continual, but only reported monthly.
i.e.
The above doesn’t indicate it’s all at once (to me anyway)
In fact:
This is mostly correct. The naval bots that make up the majority of this report(and the overwhelming majority of bans of accounts created since October) have been getting banned at the rate of about 100 a day. Continuously. They’re replaced as soon as they’re banned, it’s just whackamole.
(You could exclude the 5,000ish bots in this report and just look at the other 3,000 as a “wave” of sorts though.)
Oh, i thought the use of the word “purchase” ment an actual IRL currency purchase of a vehicle from the store, not an SL purchase from the tech tree. Now it makes a lot more sense if that is the case.
Yeah, that’s just one model, relying on a lot of concentrated compute no one will miss or charge for.
Another is they just sold the script to 500 of their “closest friends” and they’re all quietly making an extra 100 GE off it running on a spare computer every five days or so. No way to know.
What’s so insidious about it is, because they don’t care about higher rewards and dwell at 3.7, they totally break the new player experience in NRB, as well as the coastal BRs above newbie levels. NRB is really only playable now at 4.7 and above, but it’s steadily draining the mode of any new blood. They might as well shut down trying to start an account with a bluewater ship in RB if they can’t find another way as it won’t make much difference.
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I was under the assumption that the use of cheat software will not be responded to at once, because this would make it easy to develop it further, as the developer can easily test his new cheat.
Also, the “my dog abused my account” posts usually come in thick after the announcement, not evenly distributed.
@Bruce_R1 I have actually seen bots in air RB too.
Oh yeah, ARB base bots were a problem for a long time. At one point everyone on the global leaderboard was basebotting, not so much these days. Over the years we’ve seen AA bots in ground modes, actual player-purchased scripts for naval (Moffett bots), ASB botting galore…
The difference there is those were generally established accounts, people collecting in-game resources or status by buying a bot script. So their account start dates when they are finally caught are going to be, like you say above, spread all over the place.
The NRB bots are “orcs spread for a specific purpose.” They have very short lives, only 5-10 days, only play one newbie boat automatically, collect resources by aimbotting, get banned for it, regenerate a new name, start over. In the November report they were still only about 40% of all Gaijin’s bans. Now that they’re trending above 60% of all their bans, I think that’s increasingly worthy of notice. (EDIT: I see someone did a count and came up with 2,400 bot names this report, so it could be lower. There were definitely over 1,000 in the previous one.)
I saw on Reddit yesterday someone saying, “wow, Gaijin, that’s the most bans ever!” But if we actually talk players in the popular modes being affected, and exclude everything that only affected NRB 2.7-4.7 on the NA server, at 3000ish over two months it’s actually one of the smallest ban lists they’ve ever put out.
Wish you guys would put in place a system that bans people from playing for team killing (at least a few hours for first or second offenders, after that make it days) literally keep getting killed in ARB because I’m playing Israel. I’m actually amazed by the antisemitism
I was happy to see a lot of these French bot bombers (Poter 630 series / B-26 C) on the list. It took a while - i mentioned this last year in August:
I am still wondering why there are at least 3 different bots with US 3.7 PBJs (Attack version of B-25s) active - all named “Task Force” but from different squads. All they do is spawning and fly straight, hoping to get score either with ai gunners or just with the 135 “i got killed” mission score.
I reported this last year too:
What sense makes reporting when it takes ages until you react?
It does read like that. I wonder how many people have been not interested because they interpreted it that way.
HELL YEAH! THE NAVAL LEOPARD BOT SCOURGE IS NO MORE!
for how many hours/days?
The problem is that they just create 100 more every time they get banned. They didn’t all just get banned before this thread went up. It is an ongoing process. Check all of @Bruce_R1 's posts in this thread. Strongly recommended for everyone who cares about naval battles and wants this situation to get under control.
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since i hopped on naval today (this morning, GMT time)
Is it true for low BRs theres no anti cheat?
No harware bans either
Gaijin just arnt serious in any way
Anti cheat is required for all BR’s in Ground Realistic, ALL Naval modes regardless of BR, and they have been gradually reducing the required BR for Ground Arcade. I cannot remember for Air Battles off the top of my head.
Its just crazy that its even a thing. Players are ok to cheat in xyz mode.
No hardware ban also…
The basis of this argument is rather weak. Besides the fact that the conclusion isn’t proven in any way, it’s also apparent that confounding factors could very well be at play. Such as Naval being an easier mode to automate for bot activity (especially NAB after the damned aiming system change) due to less player agency in comparison to, say, Air RB.
While I still detest the aiming changes to Naval Arcade, the naval bots are only happening in Naval Realistic. I have not seen a single naval bot in NAB, at all (at least not any using the semi random names, and seeing an entire lobby full of them.) And I fully ground out the Naval event Bote too.
You can look at every one of the service records of all the thousands of banned people with the same naming syntax in this report list and every single one of them will be an account that was created in the last month, played exclusively NRB, generally at the rate of about 100 games per day, only with a reserve-level vehicle, and was banned by Gaijin within a few days. Every. Single. One. There is absolutely zero question on this point.
They do NRB exclusively over NAB because it’s the least popular mode so fewer people will complain, but also because you can aimbot and accrue RP effectively with the free reserve vehicles in it. To make RP/SL in ARB or GRB with a script you first need to have a jet, or a really good AA vehicle. That means botting in those modes tends to be established real players who have already sunk money in their account needing a boost and taking a risk of being banned by buying an aimbot script. A referral-skimming scheme at the scale we’re seeing here (if that is in fact what it is) could never work in any other mode but naval.
I do think one of the ironies of the Leopardbots is they actually use the OLD repair system in NRB, giving them another advantage over new players who wouldn’t know better and use the new one.
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