i mean it’s an alright plane, untill it faces su27s mig29s and every other 4th gen, its b.r. is a bit high for what it offers compared to other F4s at 12.0 as it’s the most lacking, i’m not saying it’s unplayable as i’m trying it out just now, but form my pst experience with other planes, i’m not sure if it’s worth its b.r. .
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We just need 14.0 BR for current 13.7. It would be easier to balance jets overall.
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i agree, 14.7 would be best, but as it currently stands maybe we need a max difference of 0.7 in b.r. instead of 1.0 in RB of what you can encounter.
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Knowing Gaijin response, a single step increase already will be very helpful.
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The F4J(UK) is the worst Phantom, the F4F Early atleast has a lower BR and one of the fastest at the BR
They could fix the British Phantoms by fixing the Skyflash (making it better)
While I think it’s fine, I just wish it wasn’t the same BR as STRAIGHT UP BETTER ONES
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Or, in sim. 0.7 BRs higher
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I assume you don’t mean the F-4F Early in the German tree, because iirc that only gets 9Js, and doesn’t get CMs. Hence the lower BR.
But yes, the UK Phantoms should probably all come down to 11.7
No it’s better at the lower BR than the F4J(UK), yes it’s less advanced and no Fox 1s but like early Starfighters almost nothing can catch you even if everyone has all-aspects
Compared to the F4S it’s worse in every aspect, worse agility as the F4S has slats, no HMS, aim9h>aim9g, aim7f>skyflash, worse engine and RWR, they only have the same radar and airframe and they both sit at same b.r. . I propose to add aim9ls tò male It worth the price and b.r. even if that means a 0.3 b.r. increase or tò Power its b.r. as i dont see the F4J(UK) as being more effective than a 23ML, i remember that in the past the 3rd gen 23s were the first to receive b.r. increase of 11.7 as they were dominating the meta while the F4s remained 11.3.
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Its a laughable that an FGR-2/F-4(J) should face an F-16 or Su-27.
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At least the FGR and FG have the upgraded engines that gives them an edge over the F4J(UK).
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Not much with the extra drag, the F-4S can chase down an FGR-2. They used to be very quick but that has changed
How exactly? Considering stuff what would be needed cant be fixed, becasue it doesnt exist.
- better engine
It’s laughable F-16s manage to lose to British Phantoms.
However, both, though weird, have happened.
yesn’t. At high level that goes out the window anyway, and the F-4S has a smaller and lighter gunpod (which I consider mandatory, because… well… it’s a gun, never leave home without one)
Gaijin have made a glaring error in believing a jet with the pure kinematic performance of Su-27/F-16 and MiG 29 should be anywhere near competing with Gen 3 airframes that they massively surpass.
That’s before we start to compare a Skyflash with an AIM 7M or an AIM 9G with an AIM 9L
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i find the gunpod to be one of the things that i enjoy of the plane.
which gunpod? I love the Vulcan… but it makes the Brit Phantom fly even more like a Pig.