Tornado F3 can carry Skyflash DFs. But they are physically imcompatible with the Tornado airframe. That is what the “TEMP” is for. They should be Skyflash TEMPs not Skyflash DFs (but the devs are too lazy to change the name and maybe tweak the model)
Also, werent the “early” Mig-29s incompatible with R-27Es but Gaijin gave them the R-27Es instead of R-73s?
I’m calling that a myth.
Tornado ADV first flight was 1979, intorduced 1985.
SuperTEMP was 1988.
There is also no claims of changed fins or body diameter.
Also R-73s would make Mig-29s 13.0.
Skyflash TEMP and Skyflash SuperTEMP are 2 different missiles
TEMP literally stands for: “Tornado Embodied Modification Package”
The missile entered service on the F-4 Phantom in 1978 as what was later called the 3000 Pre TEMP series (Tornado Embodied Modification Package). In 1985, these aircraft were replaced with the Panavia Tornado ADV. Both the Phantom and the Tornado carried the Skyflash in semi-recessed wells on the aircraft’s underbelly to reduce drag. In the Tornado, however, Frazer-Nash hydraulic trapezes projected the missile out into the slipstream prior to motor ignition. This widened the missile’s firing envelope by ensuring that the launch was not affected by turbulence from the fuselage. Skyflash was therefore converted to the 5000 TEMP series to incorporate the Frazer-Nash recesses in the body of the missile, Launch Attitude Control electronics in the autopilot section and improved wing surfaces. The Tornado-Skyflash combination became operational in 1987 with the formation of the first Tornado F.3 squadron.[4]
From 1988 a further modification (6000 series) nicknamed “SuperTEMP” included the Hoopoe rocket motor to change the missile’s flight profile from boost-and-glide (with a 3-second burn) to boost-sustain-glide (3 second boost - 4 second sustain), increasing its range from 17nm to 18.4nm at a height of 30,000ft and at a height 5,000ft the range increase was more substantial, raising from 14nm to 16nm. The maximum flight time was also raised from 40 to 50-60 seconds.[5]
I wasnt talking about BRs. I was talking about an example of an aircraft carrying a weapon it never did and maybe physically couldnt IRL but Gaijin has given it an ahistorical loadout for the sake of balance
Nothing has ahistorical loadouts. A vehicle not being able to distinguish between missile versions does not mean it can’t fire them.
AIM-7F on F-4J is still identified as AIM-7, to the system it’s as if it’s firing an AIM-7E. Vehicles going out of service before new variants of the same weapon gets used in an active conflict is common.
As for the TEMP stuff, potentially new knowledge for me. Either way the likelihood that’s more than just a texture and naming difference seems low from what’s there.
What other maximum speed? The F-111A flies at 1300-1400 km/h and it reaches it when it is time to drop bombs, or rather when there is nowhere to drop bombs. The Phantom reaches 1400 km/h after flying a little away from the airfield.
F-111A goes mach 1.13 on the deck with napalm.
All Phantoms top out at ~1.03 with base load equipped except FG1/FGR2 which goes 1.07.
which has to haul 8x 1000lb bombs rather than 2x Napalm
Yes, which tells you how much better the Spey engines are.
*at low alt
Also, your numbers are wrong or are operating with an absolute minimum load.
FG1 with 1+4+4 and 8x 1000lb bombs and 60% constant fuel level (which I just use as an “average”) tops out at 1.04
F-4S with 4+4 and 3x Napalm (best I could get with the presets for the testflight) and 60% tops out at the same speed of 1.04.
Which kinda shows just how much better the Napalms are and inbalance it causes. That it allows for less than 1/4 the bomb load to be taken to be balanced. Also shows just how screwed the F-4J(UK) was
The numbers in my post are correct, your bomb load is incorrect.
This is the bomb load:
Napalm Phantoms are slower, deal with it.
I get 1.05 from that loadout
1.06. They added more drag to the vulcan since the last time I tested. Forgot about that.