Not long, seeing as it got them on release. Here is a video from 6 years ago of the 1.85 dav server, which was the update which added the Italian ground tree. Just skip to 4:29 and see what modifications it has:
beepbeepbeep my bullshit detector went off again. Here is another video, this time from the Apex predators update 2nd dev server (2 years ago). Skip to 1:53 and tell me which missiles you see in the modifications:
Same as German and Russian mains, but looking at your biases you will likely just deny that these complaints and likely even the buffs ever happened.
Not entirely true. People complained about wanting a better armored Abrams. Gaijin giving the Abrams a reload buff was not something the people asked for or wanted initially. Hell I think a lot of people would happily have the reload buff reverted if it means getting the Abrams fixed and adding a properly armored Abrams as a 2A7/122 counterpart.
What? You talking about Mavericks? They’re miles away from being broken and also they’re not KH38’s and the F16C dominating Ground Realistic battles era is long gone.
You call it crying, we call it complains and they must exist since so many bugs and unnecessary additions were implemented either wrongly or not added at all.
But go ahead buddy, Germans can cry over the 2A7 having less hull armor.
Russians can cry over not having FnF missiles for their Helicopters while having the best ATGM called Vikhr.
Russians can cry over the bad reverse speed and bad reload while the second best tank and the best Ground lineup ever.
But when an American player suggest an issue like bad armor on the Abrams or Hellfires are so slow or Mavericks are from the 80’s he get attacked and he’s crying.
Also barely scratching the surface of the Russian arsenal.
Though they do tend to get cooler things before everyone else which is slightly peeving, AASM would have been nice earlier, but we have them now. Except the big one.
I want to say they do have an equivalent to the CBU 105, but not the GBU 53, as that is far too subtle of a solution for the Russians. As is probably obvious given the development of glide 3 tonne bombs. Though I may be missing something in that regard.
Seems the weapon Russia considers equivalent from their state outlets is Drel. I am not sure I would call that equivalent to GBU 53, but there you go. Seems it is closer in functionality to 105, but apparently they’re comparing it to 53.
Wouldn’t call it worse, has some functionality I’d argue make it better, so I’d say it’s different but not better nor worse. If you can get to the area to drop the CBU, then probably better, but if you can’t seems Drel has a bit more functionality.
This is provided that functionality works, given the unfortunate circumstances Russia has saddled its manufacturing with.
Aye, and if you can get that to the target, it is much better. But if your target is angy, Drel seems a bit more able to manage it even if there’ll be less effect on said targets.
To answer the functionality:
Supposedly they’re making it glide-y. Seems the Russians have gotten pretty good at making stuff glide a decent way.
I decided to check if PTABs were upgraded, and now I’m down a rabbit hole of ordnance I didn’t realise existed because apparently they did actually create new submunitions instead of (More accurately: As well as) still slinging the old stores. Suffice to say, apparently Russia has plenty of equivalents to these things.
So Drel is relatively similar, they’ve apparently a half dozen versions of their cluster bombs carrying smart munitions, or just a slightly silly number of dumb bomblets from the old stores. Apparently the new conflict has brought them to the fore, with them also being given glide kits.
I am going to have to investigate this more thoroughly when I’m awake.
