yeah because You cant never just stay on the topic, You have always to go against the person You are discussing with in a personal way (like when You called the other guy that was arguing against You “an arrogant child”.). Btw, I’m done with this, You clearly showed You incapability to have a civil discussion with someone else.
Imagine trying to strike me by using one of my sentence and justify his point by not showing the whole picture.
Not only you have personal ego issues you also like to distort situation in order prove your point, no wonder you got so offended when i said im not interested with your personal claims.
You decided to resurrect a conversation that was ended many months ago according to your personal claims, whats funny is there is not a single sentence where i mentioned that F-104’s only recieved their countermeasures because of Flight Manuels, and even if i did it wouldnt be wrong by any means because thats what Flight Manuels for.
God this is such a waste of time.
am pretty sure they nerf it. it aswell unplayable.
It has a super small signature (plus lots of flares and chaff)
Honestly, even from a balancing standpoint, losing its flares would only make sense
It has the best flight performance at its BR with very potent guns and the AIM-9E is fine for making planes maneuver or getting kills on unsuspecting ones
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Except that both the Chinese F-5A and French NF-5A are at the same BR with better missiles and the same flight performance?
NF-5A is straight up better though, isn’t it?
Yes. I’m fairly sure it’s on par with the F-5E right now, and it shouldn’t even be 10.7.
I think it has the better engines but I can’t say how much that affects it’s performance. I know it is at least on par with the F-5C, while still having better missiles, at the same BR.
The point is the same though.
People complaining about the F-5C when the F-5A and NF-5A are direct upgrades at the same BR are full of cope.
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Losing its flares means it goes to 9.7, which you know this.
F-5A/C doesn’t have the best flight performance at 10.7.
In general dogfight performance, Alpha Jet TH is the best.
F-5C is still number 2.
Notice how all of those except F-4F Early have flares. F-4F has speed and AIM-9Js.
This is what it looks like when it’s F-5C vs Mig-19 or F-100A: F-100A having the same AIM-9Es as well.
So no, losing flares means F-5C moves down in BR substantially. Especially when I can fly out the F-100A at 9.3 and have a similar experience as I would with F-5C not having flares for the context of air RB and air sim.
10.3 is the lowest it can go if it loses flares when you consider the F8E, Super Etendard, F1 and others exist, don’t be ridiculous lol. Comparing the F100 to the F5 is just wild.
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The only way F-5C is 10.3 without flares is if Super Etendard moves up and all 9.7s in the game become 10.3.
Magic 1s, flares, and a decent flight model that goes supersonic is a strong platform.
F-8E has better missiles for slightly worse flight performance.
If you think the F-5A is so OP, use it and get a KDR & KMR over 2x more than your next highest.
no lmfao. all the plane you mentioned either uses 35G death stick for their missile or has 4 missiles to compensate for the lack of flare. F5C does not have that luxury of Magic or multiple missiles. it can and should be in 10.0 without flare on account of good-ish FM.
And yes, I also accounted F-104J on the flareless 10.3. which can be boiled down to it being so fast and has 6 missiles. Even F-1 is at 10.0 with 4 missile and arguably better engine than F-5C.
No, even though losing flare is drastic damage, 9.7 takes sounds wild.
10.0 sounds more plausible than 9.7.
I don’t think the majority of supersonic jets in 9.3-9.7BR can manage to stand against [F-5C without flares.]
And yes, comparing the F-100 against the F-5 is just wild.
Never said those shouldn’t go up in BR
They aren’t F-5Cs though, they’re F-5As or F-5A/2000s
+@malekitth
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You’re right! You completely ignored them because they defeat your argument.
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Huh?
Just checking,
What if someone complains about not only F-5C(USAF) but EVERY F-5A/C variant?
Of course, along with these J-7D. (which is usually brought up as indulgence for F-5C)
Will you still call them that they are full of cope…?
No. players who dislike F-5C don’t dislike only F-5C; they hate every F-5.
Just F-5C becomes ‘representing every F-5 in 10.7BR’ because F-5C(USAF) has the highest play count of them in 10.7BR.
“You completely ignored it because it defeat your argument.”