You mean high speed compression?
If I limit my AOA to that of F-5C in those aircraft, then I won’t lose speed.
The only reason F-5C doesn’t “lose speed” at above 1000kph is because it physically can’t pull AOA.
F-5C bleeds speed just as much as T-2 does the moment F-5 can actually pull as much AOA as T-2 can.
My f4 with skyflashes and aim9g had to fight f16s with 9m i don’t see your point
The F-5C couldn’t in so much as there were no F-5Cs left in existence by the time the ALE-40 dispenser was invented.
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I mean supposedly the T-2 is a close comparison to F-5C in flight performance, but you get way better missiles without any flares. And that is at 9.7.
None of the deltas can sustain F-5C, they can one circle it, but sustain they bleed all their speed and become dead. MFs weak engine aint helping that either,SMT is better for that. But still,you get behind,launch R-60 or Magic,poof single flare,missle gone. So you get closer to kill it with your Gsh-23,guy flips round like mad, yay crit,hits,he lost wing, oh no he keeps flying and out turned me. I´ve seen F-5s eating 3 missles and flying without wing yet killing people, not only performance but the DM is also broken.
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And this is why Warthunder ideally should have action keys to limit steering/control surface authority built into the keybinds.
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So does my no radar missle no all aspect J-7 or F-4E, or as you said, my FG.1
Foreign F-5 models did used countermeasure systems, @AlvisWisla just proved with photo actually.
According to you it should loose its armament,IRST and countermeasure systems cause it was never armed with those.
Both planes are comptabile with Sparrows so why only Barak-II should loose it? Again Hypocracy.
Never used its service life so according to you it should loose it.
İts safe to say this is nothing but a hypocracy.
Foreign didnt had F-5C as Flame mentioned. By the time the CM dispenser was made,there were no F-5C. Yak-141 would have IRST,and all that if it had entered service, that things were designed and to be made. Israel never had any Sparrows,so why would Barak have em. As for GR.1, Gaijin only cares if you can mount it on it. As you see,they were mounted.
Oh no,Yak-141 with R-27
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They can sustain better then F-5C, it has been proved countless times.
MF’s engine is more then enough to deal with F-5C, once again you’re spreading misinformation.
Same goes for every single plane that has countermeasures.
Didnt saw a single that can outturn any other plane without one wing, good story tho.
İ also saw other planes ate couple missiles and cannon rounds and managed to still fly without too much issue. Yesterday my German Tornado got shot by Strela missiles yet i managed to land perfectly fine, so according to this logic German Tornado is op and needs br increase?
Mockup R-27’S, you dont even know how to use proper evidence, you’re so funny.
Thanks for proving my point. This method applied to countless vehicles including F-5C.
You’re really good at contradict yourself buddy.
Sir, F-5C is F-5A with a refueling pod and other minor modifications for a Vietnam trial.
That’s it, it’s identical to F-5A in avionics & weapon system.
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So many replies, and not a single image of an F-5C specifically bearing countermeasures of any sort lol
If you want to argue for any of those that actually had them, sure, but Gaijin chose the F-5C despite it being the version with CMs never mounted and as such, if y’all want to keep it so badly it should at bare minimum be renamed and remodeled.
Of course- That bare minimum is an insanely low standard, and its DM really should be looked at otherwise.
The images were posted multiple times, with another image posted by myself earlier.
F-5A=F-5C, same aircraft just minor non-weapon non-avionic changes.
Not sure why you’re begging for the F-5C to be made 9.7.
Is the aircraft in the image an F-5C Skoshi Tiger?
You know, the plane supposedly represented ingame?
İ see you’re still complaining about F-5C while ignoring other vehicles that gets same treatment.
Quite the opposite, actually- I’d love to see the Skoshi Tiger at 9.7. With the configuration it actually historically had.
The bloody planes were taken out of service before countermeasures even began widespread use, and as such, if Gaijin wants to sell what’s essentially IRL an early-ish F5, they should do that instead of slapping unneeded, imaginary upgrades onto an aircraft that never historically got them.
And yes before you ask, regarding historical accuracy. I’m all for removing the R2Y2s, Ho-Ris, F-16AJ, and other similar fake vehicles once something more realistic can be found to replace them. The US is certainly not in the same spot certain other nations are where they need a fictionalised vehicle at that BR, and the F-5C would do just fine at 9.7 with no CMs as already shown by the T-2.
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Refer to above post.
If you replace your brain with a wallet and buy a version of a jet that never mounted countermeasures in reality, well… You should get what you deserve in that regard. A regular Skoshi Tiger.
Well at least i have a brain to trade with something else.
You on the other hand has zero considering your double policy and constant complaining.
Sure, with that Logic i should get M1A1 KVT instead of 105MM, cause you know in real life M1 KVT was actually based on M1A1, not 105MM model.
“Good player” does seem mighty subjective, with the amount of top tier premium jets around in already handheld tech trees.