F-4F KWS LV (ICE): Arch-Phantom!

Yeah, 65G (and the other HE/SAP mavs) are too heavy for the triple or even a dual pylon

You lot asked for the ICE, You got the ICE now, deal with it : P

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Yes, up to 4

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Except we:

A) got it late
B) got it nerfed
C) got it vastly overtiered for its nerfed state

But I guess, we will never see the IRIS-T ingame, since Russia and the US both lack equivalents and Germany isn’t allowed to have an advantage in top tier jet combat in this game.

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Oh we are getting the smokeless variant? Thats great news

How do you want another players counter focal plane array irccm seeker missile with TVC and a lot of energy?

A bad pilot blames his plane : )

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Doesent -1 use the same motor as the base one? The only claims i found about it being smokeless is wt forum.
To make it clear, i mean no harm, just asking out of pure curiosity.

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They literally could’ve added this thing right after the EJ Kai was introduced or idk a year or two after at least and with a BSed AIM-7 loadout. Those saying its DoA when alot more capable 4th Gen Jets are flying around arent wrong…

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i mean gajin seems to have sources
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That being said it is honestly a big mystery and we all arent to sure of it.
David said at one point as well that maybe they did a mistake with the RB 74(M).
Either way it either means germany gets a smokeless motor or they give swedish missle smoke in the next update lol
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Yea, but -1 upgraded the IRRCM to 9M level(or slightly better), as /I were inferior to 9M. Nowhere i can find a thing about smokeless motor.

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What does the KWS LV stand for?

generaly its impossible hard to find anything about 9L(I) or 9L(I)-1 variants. Because for ease sake they always get refered to as aim9l or sidewinders

Kampfwertsteigerung

I can drop this

Nothing there is about smokeless

Kampfwertsteigerung Luftverteidigung

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Thanks

thats the thing it talks about the 9L/I not the AIM-9L/I-1
Germany didnt even bother making a specific page for it lol

Wasnt MICA only available since RMV?

Yea. Tbh as you said it makes it hard. Still i have no idea about the smokeless motor