F-16AJ Placement in the Tech Tree

No? Really? I wasn’t aware

I am so tired of this. I recently got the F16AJ too, and I am sick of constantly facing Fox 3 cancer without any real way to evade them, my chaffs barely work since they run out quickly, and as soon as i get an opportunity to fire at an enemy, all I get is a fox 3 in my face after they break off so my 7F can’t hit. In my opinion, the F-16AJ should be no higher than 12.3. Either that or give it AAM-4 and increased countermeasures. In which case it could be moved to 13.0 perhaps.

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Adding onto that, in my opinion, a plane which doesn’t carry fox-3 missiles should never face any that could. It’s both realistic and fair.

Actually, non-fox-3 flankers can actually do pretty well in fox-3 environments
And will absolutely dominate if they are in a bracket where they don’t fight fox-3s

They get very good fox 1 and 2s though, whereas the f16 is stuck with 7Fs and 9Ls, which are found all the way down in 10.0

(they’re a higher br)

They’re a higher br but yet the F-16AJ face the same stuff. Isn’t that the whole point? How a worse plane face the same enemies as a plane that’s a lot better in terms of equipment. The flanker is a whole generation newer than the F-16AJ

The issue here is compression
not the F-16 being bad

(wait till you see the MiG-29 at the same br as a flanker with better fm, better rwr, and more missiles)

It would still be trash if it was 12.3.

13.3 isn’t enough to save it from fox 3 spam.

The only sane option is F-15JM.

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So the first BR with PD phantoms is 12.0, and you think an F-16 should be 12.3 with sparrows?

  1. No it’s not. They are both base gen4 platforms. 2. This is ironic as hell considering what I asked you previously.
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F15 slaps. Its the only jet worth playing in the jap tree at current.

The F2 on paper should be good but its too slow and bad fox 3

AAM-4s are far from bad, you just suck

F-16AJ is also missing its landing gear door mounted sparrows

Iv fired enough 4x 120s and 4 x aa4s start of game BVR from the f15 to confirm.

And its not pulling that much harder tham a 120 to have the drag or whatever is wrong with it that makes it the most gutless missile in the game

BVR isn’t the most important aspect of a Fox-3, this has been a fact for years.

Pull is significantly more important

Na m8.
Playing the f15 i dont usually see anyone close.

BVR is where its at

warthunder, the only game where a BVRAAMs performance is measured by its CQC lethality rather than its BVR lethality

Even then iv seen players turn 180 and just go cold on the missile from.under 10km even in the thin air.

hmm yes, so the Rafale with the worst Fox-3 for range was never the best plane in the game for an entire year now

this is not possible to do unless the target turns around instantly with no loss of speed, or their radius is so ungodly large that the missile has to fly an extremely long path to attempt an interception.

neither of which is often the case.