Can f16aj get the aam3? Its really lacking at 12.7 when the f15j has 4 aam3 and 4 sparrows while the f16 only has 4 spots for aam3 + 2 sparrows
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Sea Harrier FA.2 and J-8F and F-4F KWS need to be 14.0 to you? Or a higher BR than the Su-27 or Su-33?
F-15J shouldn’t be 12.7 anyways
Sorry I meant ARH planes that people use.
Such as? And how does your BR system work? Fox3s start at 14.0 now?
Not going to argue with someone that approaches this discussion in bad faith.
I wasn’t. I asked you a direct question
A question would be “what about ARH brick planes?” which the answer would already be at “(Of course top BR must be increased to accomodate that decompression)” which you cut out.
What looks like you did was akin to:
“I think children shouldn’t be mauled by dogs”
“So you want to euthanise chihuahuas??”
I know it might not have been the intention but it sounded very combative. If it wasn’t very clear I’m saying 12.0 to 13.0 is for the most part fine in BR balance wise (with the exception of the recently lowered F-15A which should’ve stayed at 13.0) the problem is everything above specially the new premium Su-30s.
There’s lots of problem planes. F-18A and F-18C Early are too good for their BRs. F-15 as you mentioned is now undertiered. If I’m hearing right the MiG-29 just got nerfed and was already bad so this is making a problem even worse and distancing it from the better 12.3-12.7s. There’s also the 12.7 F-16s now with IRCCM. They still have a lot of fixes that need to be made.
then what does the new 13.0-14.0 bracket look like, what goes where
Without looking at all vehicles there I’d say 13.0 could be the ceilling for either good flight model but no ARH or bricks with ARH, 14.0 should have planes with good flight model + ARH but lesser count then 15+ you have the good flight model with lots of missiles with maybe 16.0 having all of that + AESA.
That’s just considering the near top tier, if we start looking at compression on earlier ranks then top br could easily be over 18.0 already.
So basically current 13.7 BR goes to 14.0 and 12.7-13.3 stretches to 12.7-13.7?
Yes, decompression.
No? Really? I wasn’t aware
I am so tired of this. I recently got the F16AJ too, and I am sick of constantly facing Fox 3 cancer without any real way to evade them, my chaffs barely work since they run out quickly, and as soon as i get an opportunity to fire at an enemy, all I get is a fox 3 in my face after they break off so my 7F can’t hit. In my opinion, the F-16AJ should be no higher than 12.3. Either that or give it AAM-4 and increased countermeasures. In which case it could be moved to 13.0 perhaps.
Adding onto that, in my opinion, a plane which doesn’t carry fox-3 missiles should never face any that could. It’s both realistic and fair.
Actually, non-fox-3 flankers can actually do pretty well in fox-3 environments
And will absolutely dominate if they are in a bracket where they don’t fight fox-3s
They get very good fox 1 and 2s though, whereas the f16 is stuck with 7Fs and 9Ls, which are found all the way down in 10.0
(they’re a higher br)
They’re a higher br but yet the F-16AJ face the same stuff. Isn’t that the whole point? How a worse plane face the same enemies as a plane that’s a lot better in terms of equipment. The flanker is a whole generation newer than the F-16AJ
The issue here is compression
not the F-16 being bad
(wait till you see the MiG-29 at the same br as a flanker with better fm, better rwr, and more missiles)