F-15C Golden Eagle should be able to hold more missiles

F-14A with F-14D avionics…

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I understand your stance. I think I discussed or argued with you earlier (maybe a few months or a year ago, unsure when it was) about F-14D and AIM-120 on it.

But I disagree about either [Extra Missile Rack to F-15C golden eagle] or [AIM-120 on F-14D], especially when it is only [tested] or [considered]

If we drive our own DMC-12 and force Congress to equip AIM-120 in F-14D and change history, then I would agree to give F-14D AIM-120.
And extra AIM-120s on F-15C GE, too, if we do the same about those.

I had no means to disturb you. But I think that was the easiest example which came to my mind.

I understand how romantic if we get AIM-120 in F-14D or getting extra missiles on F-15C GE.
But… just…

I really am unsure that F-15C GE really needs AMBER or MRML.

The F-15EX isn’t coming anytime soon

How so? XD

im pretty sure its cuz it has bunch of new stealth stuff
avionics airframe engine speed radar(aesa sth) jammers manuverability more missiles etc…

I dont think it has stealth tho

stealthier than the E

Due, the US is getting a top tier jet this update, which cancels out the possibility of getting another plane for the next update, plus there is 3 or more US planes to be added before we even reach the the EX
F16 Pobit or F16E
F/A18E Super Hornet
F15E RMP or F-15SE

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also the 15SG? or it is different

The golden eagle sucks tho, it has nothing over the E aside maybe from radar which is fake AESA

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Not necessarily

gonna have to stop you there

because this doenst belong at top tier, it should go to 14.0 as it currently is unless they buff it before introduction, as such it is not top tier and US is still missing a 14.3 jet

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So Su-30SM to 14.0 as well?
Or double standards?
Why should American aircraft always be under-BR’d compared to their competition?

F-18s, Mirage 2000, and F-16I are inferior aircraft to F-15E and F-15C GE. Why should they continue sharing the same BR? Why should American aircraft have this theme of being under-BR’d? And Israel in the case of F-15I being paired with the F-15E…

?

Su-30SM gets similar avionics to F15CGE, while having a significantly better loadout

the F15CGE has somewhat better flight performance, but it is not good enough to compensate for the insane discrepancy in loadout

right now it is more a side grade to F15E/I, because it gets a better radar but is much slower and cant give its missiles as good of launch conditions

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F-15C GE has 40% better flight performance.
And the loadout difference is quite literally same class of weapon, just 4 more of them.

So I ask you now… Should F-18C be 14.3 because it has 10x AIM-120C5s and better flight performance?
Your post implies [implication is not your words] that PESA isn’t as strong as people think it is if AESA can be the same BR as mechanical scan aircraft like Mirage 2000-5F/Ei… Mirage that mind you, is the worst flight performance at 14.0 air RB.
Good for 1v1s, but … it’s no contest for air RB.

And F-15E should be 14.3 as well as said in the post you responded to, as well as posts of mine in the past.

Your personal standards for how to balance aircraft are breaking down.

The F-15C has a better flight performance.
The R-77-1 is better than both AIM-120A and AIM-120C-5
The R-73 is better than the AIM-9M (arguably, but it’s more useful for a Fox 2 situation)

The F/A-18C does not deserve 14.3 at all. It’s transonic at best, can pull AOA, yeah but you have no weapon solution after pulling AOA (TVC to cue cannon or HOBS missile). AIM-120C-5 is mid at best, coupled with the mid FM of the Hornet, is pretty useless if you don’t plan on arriving at one point and slinging every AMRAAM you have at everything that moves (just to get 0 kills).

MICA-EM

Why tho? it is worse than the Su-30SM because of weapon quality and quantity and radar, worse then Rafale in every single metric, worse than EFT for the same reasons

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https://community.gaijin.net/p/warthunder/i/y3RoJmkAM9It?comment=vthO2bqoFLaXPsIQtndORKeS

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No disturbances here. However I was just saying the distinction between the F-14A with F-14D avionics testing and firing the Aim-120 successfully is pretty different from the F-15C that can already use Aim-120s getting missile racks that are unconfirmed to be real or functional.

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that is true for the amber racks

but this right here is very much functional from what i have seen
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I saw that i am glad one of the mods actually chose to read, either way I don’t know who this mod is since he’s one of the Russian ones but he has me actually happy for the addition if it gets them.