no ? 27er is comparable to fox3s. The f15 has nothing to compete at range
95% of the ARH slingers at 13.0 are a free kill for you if you know how to defend against an ARH
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easy to get notched. Useless in multipathing. Sure the R-27ET is very good…
Undertiered*
Fixed it for you.
F-15A is easily superior to all F-14s in the game.
F-15A is also a bit superior to the base Su-27s.
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Using IRL hit-rate is bad faith because of pilot skills being a factor.
It’s a bad metric anyway.
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Not just pilot skills, also maintenance crew skills, general level of army logistics, unpredictable failures of any part of the weapon system and so on and so forth. Also same people that bring R-27 hit rate usually start to cry when you mention AIM-9 or AIM-4 statistics.
And F-15A is definitely not undertiered. Flight performance allows you to easily engage people on your terms and only real struggle is bvr agains R-27ER platforms, every sinlge other metric of F-15A is just better. If F-15A had comparable missile to ER it would be absolutely dominant 13.0 platform with no real counters apart from full uptiers into Fox-3 meta.
p.s my bad, meant overtiered.
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Real life has more unknowns for pilots when firing weapons, so hit rates are going to be lower.
While in War Thunder we have launch parameters told to us by the game itself. Our radars give us excellent indication on the best ranges to fire weapons, and before that we had word of mouth.
Real-life pilots can’t have that, because their parameters are far more dynamic than simulators ever could be.
Either way, F-15A is under-BR’d. The fact that it’s the same BR as F-14B, F-16A, Mig-29G, Gripen A, etc is a crime.
F-15 does dominate as a 13.0 platform. The players may not use its dominate features, but it does dominate.
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Usual “i want the cake and to eat it too”. People want F-15A to be absolute best in every single thing because “muh egol 103-0 raah!” F-15A only weakness is long range shots and people for some reason love to eat ERs with their face.
Compression problem really. I don’t think F-15A should go any higher, but also it certainly can’t go any lower. At 13.3 we already have fully capable Fox-3 platforms like F-16ADF and MiG-29SMT and this is not comparable to F-15A loadout despite its flight model being absolutely cracked. With decompression to 15.0 or higher it should go up because it has no business being in 12.0 lobbies with how strong it is.
I never mentioned ego.
Also 13.0 was decompressed, 14.3 now exists.
Sure, some platforms still need to move up, but many if not most already did.
If the top BR was 15.0, F-15A should probably be 14.0.
That’s just my observation, looking at people that say “X US plane is bad\undertiered”. Usually it comes down to bruised ego, rather than actual problem with balance.
i would disagree on this. There should be as little intersection between Fox-1 and Fox-3 platforms as possible. Bad airframes with Fox-3s at most, or airframes with very limited missile count. Fox-1 carriers should not meet high performance Gen 4 airframes with Fox-3 loadouts no matter the performance in my opinion.
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remind me of the hit rate of the sparrow
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My takes come from cross analysis.
I don’t die to R-27ERs or AIM-7s with any level of notoriety, but I do know of people that do.
you can always relock with the dl+hmd. The 27er is the best fox1 in the game and it can kineticcaly compete with fox3s. The sparrows also have dl but they are much slower and kineticcaly worse. I am not saying f15a should be 12.7.Am just saying that its just not good at 13.0 and another victim of br compression
30 of 44 AIM-7M in Desert Storm hit for 68.2% hit rate
even the AIM-7D/E/E-2 had a combined hit rate of 15.8% in Vietnam.
as such, the R27ER seeker should be worse than even early sparrows since those early sparrows managed a better hit rate while being paired with far older and worse radars in a harsher environment
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No they do not, the only sparrow to have DL is the 7P which is only found on the 12.7 and 14.0 F/A-18s.
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oh damn. the f15 is a struggle bus
it flies amazingly, and the 9M’s are decent, but the missile it was meant for is pretty bad ingame
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I love 9ms
No, it isn’t.
Which is true, but can only be solved with decompression. Not compression.
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fastest accel out of any missile and its kineticaly better than some fox3s. Its still miles behind fox3s bc you have to hold the lock while they can just fire and notch but its so much better than any other fox3
That’s really neat, it’s still a semi active* radar missile though and is therefore limited in engagement possibility. There are tricks to still engage at long range but it requires clever manipulation and still doesn’t come close to fox3 ease of use and relative performance.