It’s fine. The AWG-9 is still partially classified due to Iranian still operating the F-14A. It’s a pain to even try to find the simplest of info about it. And unlike the Airforce, the Navy doesn’t promote their stuff in those nice formatted blogs. So we have barely any of those brochures to cross reference with either.
To answer your questions simply:
The AWG-9 only has HPRF (only tracking headon frequency) and LPRF (only tracks targets moving away, below, or slowly)
Fair enough. The F-14D, im assuming, will fix the AWG-9 issues when its added to war thunder. The AWG-9 isnt the best radar in my experience.
Hopefully it will be added soon!
Cheers
I hope the A late model will come, its a popular model. And the D model should come too. Like a F/A-18 that have early and late group.
The other option would be for them to properly implement the IRSTS / TCS (ALR-23 / AXX-1, impacting the F-14A Early & F-14B respectively), but they haven’t for whatever reason, so we’re still waiting on an outstanding bug report from a few years ago, on the old forum.
Presently the F-14B doesn’t use its EO tracker as part of its STT automation. As such isn’t subject to the fix requested.
The fix for the aircraft mentioned in this report is only to resolve the automation rapidly changing between radar and IR/EO while in STT. It isn’t to grant full launch capabilities in those modes and doesn’t allow for it when manually switching to IR/EO modes.
would be amazing
what would the Iranians do with the manual if it was declassified? produce spare parts?
suffer more
Iranians already have the manual relevant for their version
It would be of no use to them
They already produce everything needed to keep the plane flying in-house
We’ve been trying to tell the government that for around 20 years apparently. It makes even LESS sense for the APG-71.
Obviously i meant the two radars being next to each other AND connected to datalink. Each radar can only see stuff up to 230 miles away, and thats the only data it can send to the other aircraft and vice versa. Because that is all the radar can possibly see. Here’s an artist rendition of what i mean.
In what way does the F-14D datalink specifically make the APG-71 see past 230 miles? Actually explain it to me.
I have a feeling you just read on the wikipedia page of the AWG-9 that the APG-71 can achieve its max theoretical range (480nm) if two F-14Ds are linked together and just didnt actually research how that would happen or in what instances.
The APG-66 is not the APG-71. Though the 66V2 increasing its range a bit with new software updates and maybe some slight changes to the antenna doesnt prove anything about the APG-71’s seemingly magical datalink capabilities.
The radar system can see up to 460 miles. The antenna limits it. 3x now…
Ask Grumman and Hughes dude. I’ve done it twice now. The radar is classifed lmao.
Pilot testimonies and books on the F-14D state the same thing. Wiki is just the easiest place to show where it states that.
There are zero changes to the antenna… It’s pure software. Read the sources. It’s not rocket science to come to the conclusion the best mechanical radar in the world for it’s time evolved this technique to the APG-71 radar.
all you have proven to us is that you have no clue how either radars or datalink works
You haven’t proven anything in this thread period. You’ve only disrupted.
where is that stated
you didnt explain anything
in the video you sent the f-14 pilot said that he could see the tanker on DL
there was no mention of a second f-14
Friendly aircraft send their position through DL so it is easier to find / IFF them
you mean the wikipedia page that dosent have any sources linked for those claims?
You didn’t even read the original quote lmao. Stop ragebaiting this thread and leave please.
Not the same video genius. 100 miles is nowhere near 230 or 460 miles.
“We were in Iraq and the Tanker was 190 miles away, i could see him on link16, i know exactly where he is and of course the awg-9 apg-70 isnt going to find him at that range”
Not 👏 the 👏 same 👏 vid 👏 de 👏 yo
and if you mean any of the vids in this post
there isnt one that supports your claims
The antenna limits it to 230nm. It cannot see anything past that no matter what because the antenna is the bottleneck. The fact the electrical system behind it could make it see up to 460 with an apropriate antenna is not relevant.
So you cannot actually tell me how/why it can magically double its range with Datalink.
Link me the books, then. You make a lot of claims that are not backed up by anything.
The antenna stayed the same nor did the range change much. There have been giant upgrades to signal processing and filtering, sure, but those only increase the quality of the return within that max range. Any benefits to the max range are miniscule.
Linking two F-14Ds flying side-by-side on Datalink also doesnt improve the range since each of those radars can only see 230 miles away. You cannot make a radar see further than it already can by just bringing another radar next to it. Datalink doesnt work like that.
Datalink allows the transfer of information between aircraft and radars, allowing one aircraft to see targets far beyond its radar range, but the radar is completely blind in that case. You’d see targets picked up on your DL page by other radars, but you wouldnt be able to target them with your own radar until they get in range.
So if you had an AWACS pick a target up at 300 miles in front of an F-14, the Tomcat would see the target on the display, but the radar would be completely blind. Only when the target gets within the radar’s own range (in this case ~200 miles), would the F-14 actually be able to lock it up with its own radar.
Again, consult the image below. The F-14s would only be able to see what is inside the red area.
