F-14 Tomcat: History, Performance & Discussion

Iranian F-14 with Fakours at the new BR…Oh dear you could not be more food for the Su-30 premiums.
Yes Fakour is good however your Radar is blind so it sends the missile to the wrong place unless as said before the players are AFK. You cannot shoot them on people below you as again the Radar refuses to lock or see anything.

The F-14A series is facing Gen 4.5 airframes now with 120s and R-77s and all aspect missiles and digital RWRs and better Radars and can and do just notch the Fakour in their sleep. You are like a SAM site as in if your missile misses you are just dead, you have no short range protection you have 60 cms and a rear aspect IR missile.

This jet is cooked

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Seeing f-14as cut their engines and dump out flares just to still be hit by any ir missile is hilarious

dont think thats how it works, its asking for HPRF rather than CW. The other ARH missiles have mprf modes apparently(?)

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They are for the 54A but can be applied to the 54C aswell since gaijin has copied stats over to it

They are getting too close if that’s happening lol

They cant keep their distance forever either

Firstly, none of this information is correct.
Secondly, they have all been used in reports previously.
Thirdly, the “maximum thrust” thing is just errant, as thrust changes based on altitude and where exactly it is in the thrust curve, so as the volunteer stated… that data is somewhat useless for us.

We know the mass of AIM-54A, and we know the thrust profile. The current in-game missile overperforms at sea level and underperforms at very high altitude so I think it is as good as we will see with the current implementation of thrust as a static measure instead of some dynamic thing.

If you want more accurate information you can always visit here;
https://special.library.unlv.edu/node/667171

Current problems with AIM-54:

  • Top speed should be approx. Mach 6.1.
  • Performance should increase quite a bit at higher altitudes during loft, motor performs better there.
  • Seeker underperforming against fighter targets, should lock much later and rely more on midcourse updates.
  • Maneuverability lacks significantly in both maximum G and turn radius.
    (Should be as maneuverable as an ~AIM-7F fairly early on in flight)

I am sure there are other issues but as far as the game is concerned these are the major ones. They couldn’t fix it at the time because it would be too OP but it has been years and there is much better ordnance in the game now. I think they can go ahead and revise the F-14’s.

The biggest roadblock isn’t even the AIM-54 though, it is the poor performance of the AWG-9.

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They don’t have any sources or any factual information 'cause it’s all classified. They just gave it the worst performance possible because they have nothing to justify giving it anything better.
AWG-9 was so powerful it took 20 years for a upgrade being the f22 in the 90s

In game right now its eqaul to a F4J even worse in some aspects f14 has 6 mile ACM while f4J has 12 mile

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Eh, if you stick to Fakour spam + RTB not much has changed.
Tried 2 games and survived with 2 kills in each, 1st and 3rd place. Having +50% Fakours kinda makes up for the + 0.3 br although It should definitely have R-73s imo.

Otherwise yeah, the IRIAF has to be stricly used as a very long range BVR platform, every single thing about it is obsolete. Problem is mildly competent players - those who survive past the initial merge - can’t get killed by the fakour, they just notch it very easily (HDN seekers) and then you get destroyed by their IRCCM + 40G all-aspect fox-3 + all aspect radar + supermaneuverability + HMD combo while you have AIM-9P.

Hydrogen bomb vs coughing baby.
But again, you can make it work I guess.

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Now that F-14B has been dropped to 11.7 in GRB F-14A should be dropped as it’s also 11.7.

0 reason to take the F14A over the F-14B as CAS now.

ASB

GRB mentioned

ASB reply?? what?

The AWG-9 was a 70s radar and behaves like a 70s radar, it had good range but the modes and requirement of a dedicated WSO was a lot. Several radars both NATO and otherwise exceeded it’s performance before the 90s but were not without faults. The F-14D got an upgrade for a reason.

They have much more detailed sources than you think, though they generally refuse to share them. What they have and know about is not how it has been implemented in the game. It isn’t due to lack of sources, it is a deliberate decision on their part.

F-14 is vastly superior to the F-4J, what an absurd comment. If you are relying on ACM lock then you are using both aircraft incorrectly and I would not hesitate to jump to the conclusion that you are a newb.

F14 D received APG 71 which is a Digitalized AWG-9 with standardized parts from the F15s apg 70

Proof? cause theres nothing out there on it that is not export restricted its extremely classified plane due to iran owning them

ACM lock is the standard for within visual range combat the F4J get HMD allowing it to fire off bore sight shots the only advantage the AWG-9 offers is the better range perfomance but thats a useless upgrade R27ERs as they are hypersonic the F14B without its aim 54 gimmick would be 12.7 and the A model 12.3 this is ignoring fm differences

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How did this get sniped bro

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This is by far the most absurd comment. A good HMD/ACM is a very important tool to have at top tier, especially if you intend to play at those short range fights after the initial merge and I would not hesitate to jump to the conclusion that you are a troll.

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they also sniped this from me

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imagine if f-14d is still stuck with 9km acm with no hmd… would be horrendous to play

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