F-14 Program Office (Directly Involved with Grumman) state Mach 2.34 Speeds.
Grumman themselves release this very interesting brochure:
Bringing these sources together, “from Cruise to Mach 1.8” means from Mach 0.75 to Mach 1.8 in 75 seconds.
In an update to this, finally figures other than the one in the Outsider’s View/the Aero Series 25 Grumman F14 Tomcat figure (90 N.M nominal for a 5m^2 target without any indication of radar search volume, target speed geometry ETC) which I assume is a cumulative 50% probability of detection.
F4X has a mention of the AWG9
111.3 N.M , Mach 3 closure rate, 40k ft, 5M^2 target and a Wide Scan search pattern. I wouldn’t say it’s under VS as its for a multishot which is TWS
Even if it said 90N.M and only mention is the pd, passing from 50% Pd to 85% pd is
Like before, 10 is 100% pd, and horizontal axis is km against a 19m^2 target. Blue is the Mig31s radar, red the old F14 info and dotted red is just shifting the F14s curve so that the 85% pd is at the range(purple vertical line) where the old 50% pd was.
And the dashed line is just the 111.3 N.M figure adjusted for target’s RCS(19m^2) and set at 85%Pd by the second vertical line
And here how it fares to all radar detection ranges I’ve been able to gathered (excluding mirage 3, F4J, mig 25 and mig 23)
10 in the vertical axis is 100% pd and horizontal is detection range in nautical miles. All for a 5m^2 target.
From left to right.
someone needs to put this on a shirt
a hat as well
Do we have any performance specs for the APG-71, relative to the AWG-9 or APG-70 to place the expected performance of the F-14D??
2x the range of the AWG-9 is the only stat we have in relation to other radars. Most other things mentioned are just straight up features.
Also found some anecdotal stuff here: https://www.edn.com/a-technical-view-into-modern-mil-aero-radar-systems/#:~:text=I%20have%20personally%20witnessed%20the,during%20a%20high%20speed%20dogfight.
Next page should have mention.
I don’t think posting photos are good idea even through titles, since it is still confidential and not that old.
I bet this is from PTID screen because TID screen doesn’t have information like that
I genuinely think this “digital scan control” on the APG-71 has to be similar to priority track on the Eurofighter’s Captor M. I cannot find any other US radar that is described with this feature, even the AESAs.
Apparently this is a primary source:
I’m not sure how this could be modeled (if they even would attempt given the Captor-M) but maybe the best way would just be to open up the entire vertical range of the radar instead of the thin bars we have now. That way you could keep track of any target you want within the radar scope. Maybe with RIOs being modeled we could finally see the return of multiple 3rd person lock-boxes in TWS, except for priority targets this time?
Because all esa radars have it built in.
It’s not needed to mention it because once a target is detected it can always update it immediately whenever the radar seems necessary.
True, I just mean at least a definition of what exactly it does could be found by proxy of what they describe it as doing in the AESA’s but nope, nothing.
I feel like they did build working aim152 because I seen documents and one even being in photos of it being in wind tunnels and than obviously we have photos of some being mounted as well as photos of their anatomy even tho we don’t know if they were drop tested or tested fired in air.
I think at least they shouldve developed a ‘external’ booster, a 5km+ altitude and >mach 2 initial speed wouldve substantially increase AMRAAMs range, and would suit very well all non 5th gen airframes
imagine a further development to squeeze 4 into F-22 weapons bays
You mean like the AMRAAM-er? Would be cool to see what it’ll be like on a aircraft
(this image is showing some weird info)
No cats so far…
