Former USAF pilots and one of the few people who flew both F-15C and F-14A (through an exchange program) talking about how AWG-9 and Phoenix combination was much harder to notch than F-15C’s radar and AMRAAM combination, and how the notching tactics that they had learned to use in the F-15C vs F-15C combat was not effective in F-14A vs F-14A fights, as AWG-9 was able to maintain the lock and guide in the Phoenix.
From 57:35
Interesting, I’ve also seen interviews where F-15 pilots (from Kadena AB) have talked about how the F-14 AWG-9 and Phoenix missiles are pretty easy to beat if you know how to do it.
Can these be used as sources at all?
A guy who flew and practiced air to air combat with both F-15C and F-14A is pretty much as an objective of a source as you can get, barring a scientific study doing a practical comparison of both radars’ performance.
They don’t trust the F-5’s natops why would they trust a pilots account?
Subjectively, yes, but Kadena’s not lying. Techniques get upgraded, F-15Cs change, tactics and experience vary.
But it’s a good thing the AWG-9 wasn’t always just for “beauty”, as I often read from Eagle pilots when they talk about the F-14 Turkey.
IRL and in the game AWG-9 and AIM-54 have obvious advantages over F-15C and AIM-120A:
Wait. Wait. Developer communicate with users on forum? Is it unique feature of .com forum?
[Suggestion] F-14A Early could carry AIM-9L sidewinder
Not sure this bug report can pass but, needed to post it.
Wouldn’t the IRSTS / TCS / IRST-21 make it almost functionally immune to Notching due to optical / IR lock-on? Why would it need to rely on the radar at all.
This topic has already been covered, doesn’t quite work like that in look-down.
A contrast lock, is a contrast lock It’s not really caring about ground clutter at that point since it’s already found an edge to track.
“Current armament is intentional, better armament will increase BR.”
Lmao how??? The thing is already overtiered. They really use every excuse in the book huh…
Not suprised.
Gaijin being Gaijin as always.
The worst part is that maybe they would actually have a point if the F-14’s weapon system it was literally designed for wasn’t completely nerfed. They give it A(im-54)FK-check missiles, Aim-7s thatdon’t even attempt to track half of the time, one of the most nerfed radar sets in the game, trash rwr, and it can’t get Aim-9Ls because they deem it “too strong”.
Too bad they doesn’t model AIM-54s correctly even we already have decent ARHs.
They could pull 24-25Gs irl because they could use dual-plane but, Gaijin models these missiles as single-planes and intentionally nerfed them.
If they need to take much time for modeling dual-plane, they should be able to pull 24-25G as single-plane
temporarily, but they haven’t even done that, even though functionally it makes little difference except in certain situations.
What’s the kicker is that we have proof they were intentionally programmed to use dual-plane maneuverability to maximize their hit potential.
See here: https://youtu.be/V95SEYZseJU?si=kFSv80aW0HKjqwvr&t=444
The missile rolls in relation to where it needs to turn with both fins. It’s especially obvious with how the exhaust acts.
Does anybody know about F-110-GE-429 integration on Tomcats?
Super Tomcat?
It was a proposal only and never happened.
It clearly loses track and then reacquires the target, after which it makes the sharpest turn I’ve ever witnessed a Phoenix make, possibly because it’s engine is still running and it’s in a reasonably steep dive.
Doesn’t change the fact it’s flying basically parallel to the F-14 though, which is ridiculous.
