how did this get through the mods ?
https://community.gaijin.net/issues/p/warthunder/i/OJCxQHrSbp3F
It has a primary source on the hawk which is what the Sedjil is
have you guys been getting TKed an unusual amount of times in the F-14A Early?
yeah but the FAKOUR-90 is a AIM-54 not a HAWK all is a swapped motor
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i hope F14D gets some of these paint jobs
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Here it is in case anyone wants to support it, it’s small issue but would be a very welcomed fix
https://community.gaijin.net/issues/p/warthunder/i/94LsJlwwRK2f
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i just made one on the IRIAF tomcat
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I’d like to see the NK101 (2004) spec for VF-31 implemented, but I wonder if Felix’s rights or something like that might prevent it from happening?
God I hope we get vx-9
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I want VX-4
hey mikey you got any documents that would be a primary source for AIM-54s size ?
Check the Aim-54 thread. I posted an entire marathon of Aim-54 Schematics there.
Including stuff like this:
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https://community.gaijin.net/issues/p/warthunder/i/cGJ7WAgneH3b
im done with the bug report system you can see that its modeled wrong gaijins going off Wikipedia stats right now
https://community.gaijin.net/issues/p/warthunder/i/OJCxQHrSbp3F
@VF21_Freelancers take a look at this report how does the FAKOUR-90 get some how magically pull 20g even though the HAWK is 3 ft bigger than the AIM-54
" Although most sources reported that the Fakour-90 is a copy of the AIM-54, some analysts suggested that the Fakour-90 was actually an air-launched version of the MIM-23 Hawk missile with control surfaces from the AIM-54.[14] Analysis of the images identified the rocket motor being “M112” which is used on the Hawk as well as cable raceway similar to the Hawk"
YOU CAN SEE THE SIZE DIFFERENCE THEY ARE NOT THE SAME
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at least use fakour 90 sources.
Here is export fakour, it removes the booster and keeps only the sustainer.
https://web.archive.org/web/20240802005845/https://mindexcenter.ir/node/1427
no word on maneuverability though other than min range and maneuvering delay
Just so it’s clear the normal Fakour-90 keeps the booster and only the AD-40A loses it, as we’ve seen from the test firing footage.
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why ? the FAKOUR-90 is a AIM-54A with swapped motor the bodys identical other than the BULDGE they added on the side and theres no source i can find that supports the 20G maneuverability
its blatant non sense showing favoritism nothing in the bug report shows any data for the FAKOUR-90
all it shows is data on the HAWK WHICH USES DIFFERENT FINS AND A DIFFERENT BODY
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I found this, but it’s more of a talk and pictures than actual data.
Weird thing is you won’t find real data and most likely REAL data without some kind of propaganda in them as well.
To be fair it is debatable if it even is ARH or SARH.
It supposed to be a Maghsoud missile that is ARH … never saw anything of it.
Nowhere says about if they kept the HAWK or the 54 avionics/guidance or if and how it was upgraded.
Just that they changed the cables and the engine (to M112 of the HAWK) and ^probably^ some unspecified (or various ) things according to ^estimations^.
But even with all this…
To say the missile is externally similar to HAWK , no it’s not. It just uses those ^bulbes^ in the sides similar/same with the HAWK because most likely the cabling is of the HAWKs.
Practically , you either take on account 54s G-loads etc, only because they are too similar fundamentally , and that’s 25G . Or you go by it may have differencies in what its ^computer^ allows it and limits it to HAWK levels , or general behaviour (flight characteristics as a pattern and the missile as a unit…tries to mimic them…) .
I don’t see any HAWK missile control surfaces in F90s pictures. Now if it uses the 54s (or the looks like 54s) control surfaces to replicate a HAWKs envelope , because it’s computers say so …and if and how it is possible (probably can be possible) that’s another story.
In general the thing we have in game is just a convenient assumption , that is convenient enough to be artificially better than a nerfed Phoenix as main selling point of the IRIAF F-14…supposedly AM , without even implementing the AM’s supposed upgrades of AWG-9+ (supposedly they digitalized it to be compatible with F90s) .
Excuse me to always used ^supposedly^ , but we don’t really know if it even an upgrade like that was made, or even needed to shoot F90s.
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So are the thurst on the f14 correct because I heard channel lost is only for airplanes with curved air ducts or do the things inside the f14 the ones that reduce the air speed so it dosent mess up the engines coming in at Mach 1 also effect it giving channel lost?
thats incorrect
every air intake will induce channel loss and hinder the airflow
the only plane ingame that shouldnt have any is the A-10
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Not sure exactly for the F-14A but the F-14B’s thrust is very “accurate” and peak performance only loses 100 pounds of thrust per engine compared to what it’s supposed to be.
Now the thrust curve that comes after that is something else and probably idiocy, but the basics are there.