F-14 Tomcat: History, Performance & Discussion

The TF-30s power band was adapted for higher speeds, that doesn’t mean it works like a ramjet. It doesn’t. Simply put, most of the compression used to improve thrust and SFC is done by the intake and not by the compressor, therefore the thrust continues to increase the faster you go.

Of course, it is not as bad as the “run-a-way” engines on the MiG-25, which could potentially be difficult to stop and can run away in thrust or RPM if you go too fast iirc.

Even the MiG-29 has this kind of a design, where the engine can only produce the maximum thrust at high speeds. Something that is different, like the F-18’s F404 engine, produce very close to maximum thrust at static speeds. This is far more ideal for carrier operations.

Ram air intakes are not ramjets, and there is a very big distinction. Using compressed air from the intake is not the same as solely compressing air using an inlet throat.

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Thanks for the explanation.
I couldn’t explain it well.

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It’s a good job they don’t then…

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doe’s anyone have further data of the AIM-54C for the 14? im considering making a suggestion post to give the 14B other variants of the AIM-54C as a means to make it more 13.0 worthy (cause currently we can all agree its pretty sad rn)

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don’t even try it.
they don’t want to fix the plane.

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anything regarding the c+ is still heavily classified, you can look at the aim-54 forum for plenty of details

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Ah, could u drop a link to the aim54 forum pls

thanks mate :D

It doesn’t matter…
After a point they just used third party data and guesstimations.
It’s impossible to have unclassified things for 2020+ planes , except commercial resources/brochures or manufacture released data (which is most likely wikipedia data/for reference - approximate-not 100% accurate anyway).

And to be specific, it could be way better missile with dual-plane 25G anyway, but they don’t have dual -plane…for any missile anyway.
The ECCM resistance isn’t modeled yet, anyway… so even if, if you want to model it make it like AMRAAM but with AIM-54C FM (which is still wrong anyway, needs fixing) and your half-way there (the 54C+ had AMRAAM components anyway).
It’s not ^it’s classified^ … when you already have ^more classified^ things in game… there are many sources to use . You don’t need the manual to create anything under ^released data^ etiquette …

I guess it would be omega nerf for A models?

What is the current value?

It takes 3-4 sec iirc.

From NASA TM X-71741 TURBOFAN COMPRESSOR DYNAMICS DURING AFTERBURNER TRANSIENTS

This documents focused to TF30-P-3 which was used for F-111A, not TF30-P-412/414 but, still enough for explain how TF30 was so bad…

Ok, update.

For some reason, it’s actually kinda difficult to get official sources that state M2.34 at 12,000 meters. I have bits and pieces saying essentially that, but I never realized they don’t really flat out state that in the docs. I’ll keep searching and the bug report should be up by Saturday/Sunday at the latest.

I don’t know if it counts as a source or anything, but it says some things about Tomcats speed in general.

Pilot statements aren’t accepted as a source

P&W TF30 - Overperforming engine response

watch them add this nerf and not drop the BR of it

Hope they give limas for A models honestly.

Also, most peoples in ARB doesn’t care about that because they use full afterburners entire the game.

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