F-14 Tomcat: History, Performance & Discussion

[MiG_23M]

@Mytho-GR1

There is a reason the F14D had a new radar which is that AWG-9 was outdated with mostly analogue components

Maintenance and compatibility with existing parts for reduced costs, performance was good too.

Eurofighter came into service later with a mech scan (behind peers, not ahead), and still hasn’t seen widespread use of the radar upgrade.

It was 2024 and Britain still hadn’t equipped new radar right?

The F-14A’s modified for use with AMRAAM could certainly have been equipped with them. They needed only software updates and the pylons iirc.

@someweirdname

CAPTOR-M is so heavily classified that I’d be surprised if the public, including you, even know what it can do

Can’t be letting the enemy know their vulnerabilities. Hard to hide them when it’s so obvious, tho.

@ron_2303

you mean this trash IRST on the Su-35

To be fair, that’s the best thermals I’ve seen on anything Russian and it’s almost brand new. We had better thermals on our tanks since 1979.

[ron_23]

The F-22 in the image seen has the length of the diagonal of a rectangle measuring 113px*85px.
solving pythagroas therum for the diagonal we get:

Image used to get pixel measurements

x=sqrt(113^2 + 85^2)
x=sqrt(12769 + 7225)
x=sqrt(19994)
x=141.4px

The F-22 on the picture ha a length of 141.4 pixels which equates to 62’1" or 18.923 meters

To calculate he distance we need the angular size of the F-22 which we can get by dividing the earlier calculated 141.4px by the width of the image itself and the multiply it by the FOV of the sensor/ camera
The FOV of the OLS-35 (Irst of the Su-35) is 10*7.5° or 75°

The Image is 873px in width, with that we can calculate the angular size of the raptor on the image:

x=(141.4px / 873px) * 75°
x=12.147766323° ~ 12.15°

To get the distance we can use the following formular:

Distance = actual size / 2tan( radiant / 2 )

to get the radiant we need to take the angular size and multiply it by PI/180

d= 18.923m / 2 * tan( ( 12.15° * PI / 180 )/2)
d= 18.923m / 2 * ~0.002 | the ~0.002 is a really long irrational number, which i used in the further calculation, it was just a bit to long for my taste ^^

d=4,969.637m

the result is a distance of ~5000m and that is fully ignoring any zoom that the camara has

[someweirdname]

the widespread change to CAPTOR-E hasn’t been done because CAPTOR-M is Superior to AESA Based Radars of the 1990s and Early 2000s

[iulian29-67]

No it isnt??? What the hell are you talking about? AESA radars, even earlier ones, are still much better than mechanical radars.

[someweirdname]

better at what?

give me something technical so I can pick it apart please

[kitsune_qq]

wow… 5 km. insane!

[someweirdname]

the antenna type itself is Inferior as proven by US made Radars of WWII which were superior to German “PESA” Radars by using well… Mechanically scanned focussed beam antennas instead of electronically timed Dipole Arrays

[quartas121]

Js use binoculars if it’s 5km lolll

[ron_23]

ignoring zoom

the image is zoomed in the su35 is even further away

[ron_23]

you guys cant read, can you?

the 5km is ignoring the zoom of the camera

@ron_2303

the result is a distance of ~5000m and that is fully ignoring any zoom that the camara has

[someweirdname]

with the sensor resolution we could correct the image but I doubt we’ll ever get that

[iulian29-67]

Higher resolution, better detection and tracking, higher resitance to jamming / better jamming capabilities…

[quartas121]

Bro is comparing WW2 radar to end of cold war

[iulian29-67]

Yes im sure 1940s era radar types, which were all still in their infancy, is THE concret proof of why 1990s and later mechanical radars are somehow better. Its not like technology has advanced tremendously since then.

[quartas121]

I mean even then I don’t see how it makes it good. Wow, it can see a plane from more than 5km

[kitsune_qq]

on these pics it can be even just 5km. maybe more, but who knows

[iulian29-67]

The F-22 was built with not only a reduced RCS, but also a reduced IR signature in mind as well, so being picked up by an IRST is something, especially if the image was zoomed in (so the F-22 was actually further away than 5km).

[someweirdname]

Define resolution

→ the detection range of AESA Radars drops with angle, the maximum range of an AESA radar can only be accomplished by Removing the only advantage it has and focusing all Beams in the same direction

→ TWS with an AESA radar is only better at short ranges because the actual Power that the tracking Beams have shrinks with the number of beams, and if we use just one beam then the scanning speed is identical to that of a modern Mechanical Radar

all measures for Jamming resistance ane Jamming capabilities applied by AESA Radars (Frequency hopping, continuously decreasing power of the locking beam etc.) can be Applied by Mechanical radars too

[ron_23]

thats identification range and not detection range
this is its detection range:

[someweirdname]

bro doesn’t even know how ancient the idea of an Array radar is