Alas, the acceleration should and could be higher. Same for the top speeds in most conditions.
I don’t really think that evidence is conclusive on the matter, and no it is not regional or biased. If you can’t let go of the fact that the Typhoon is mostly marketing lies, then perhaps you should whine about it in the correct thread.
Let’s see it that way.
Many planes can possibly cruise without AB over 1 mach …without combat load , which is effective is not supercruise.
For F-14B/D , maybe it was possible …without any AIM-54 , without using the wing/glove pylons and maybe 2 Sparrows in the underbelly that won’t produce enough drag. However , that’s not combat load… even if it was possible.
Yes naked the plane could go over mach without A/B .
It’s very difficult for a plane without any capability to carry a combat load configuration internally , to have “supercruise” . Also most planes that are said to achieve supercruise break sound barrier with afterburner and then maintain with military…that’s not real supercruise. You can say it’s a work around for fuel economy.
Not without burning much more fuel than necessary and taking entirely too long to do so, not to mention without ordnance.
That’s what I’ve been trying to say also, but Eurofighter crowd is upset that their plane isn’t as capable as an F-22…
Are they? Bit of a strawman.
Most complaints I’ve read and also share this opinion that using your own definition of super-cruise isn’t a good argument, I don’t think anyone I’ve seen comment is under any illusion that the F-22 isn’t super-cruising more efficiently.
At first you took a firm stance it couldn’t super-cruise at all, once that was disproved, you switched tactics to using your own definition of the term. Now you’re shadow boxing a strawman of the “Eurofighter crowd” that from what I can see doesn’t exist.
Eurofighter can super-cruise. It does save more fuel than using reheat. F-22 can super-cruise at lower throttle settings saving even more fuel. Both statements are true.
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Any update on the IRIAF missile quantity fix? Could you bump it maybe?
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Bumped it for you.
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The F-22 does what suits the wording, the Eurofighter doesn’t.
You proved that Eurofighter states it can supercruise, but by stretching the use of the term. That is not honest marketing.
Someone should really make an F-22 history and performance thread
That would get closed faster than German typhoon thread
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Maybe, but seeing as there is a Foxbat thread (not in-game yet), and F-22 is talked about a good bit, it would be nice to have a thread specifically for it
There are already F-22 threads and they are filled with nonsense and conjecture
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Fair enough. Hopefully we’ll really need one in December
It can supercruise, with 8 missiles infact, as confirmed by EADS, this improves range too, giving a range of 250nm, which can only be achieved subsonic when taking 3 external fuel tanks ontop of the above config.
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It has improved range over earlier fighters but is incapable of pulling the throttle back to cruise while supersonic and still maintaining the speed above mach.
If it was marketed as supercruise and not just enhanced range and speed over previous fighters in dry thrust, then it was dishonest marketing.
Now you are simply lying, it very much can supercruise, as EADS data shows, and even labels as supercruise, with the given loadout, and even compares to to afterburning.
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If you don’t want to do the reading then don’t join the conversation
Kinda going off topic guys
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I’m not sure you are the one reading, you said it can’t fly supersonic when throttling back.
So the F-14 has supercruise now, putting it on par with the Typhoon