F-111C & F: When Pigs Fly!

Historical weapon means a weapon the vehicle used/can use.
And since this is a vehicle game, that is dictated by the manufacturer.

F-111F has AAMs, air to ground both dumb and guided… they’re filled unless there’s proof of its non-moving pylons being on F-111F and C.

So aim-9m on F-111 is historical. and removing it would be non-historical.

I don’t understand your argument for removing weapons a vehicle used IRL and it still being historically correct loadouts. It just wouldn’t be.

2 Likes

Can we maybe get this thing at 11.3 in ASB please?
Can we get outer pylon jettison finally for all the Varks, since it is historically accurate?
Also cool Daft Punk music in the video.

Hitting 1.10 with 3 bases of bombs is wild.

Fastest jet in the game until Mig-31 or YF-12, and fastest jet bomber in the game period.

@Necronomica
AIM-9M isn’t the only AAM F-111F used, thus not having it is not non-historical.
Having none of its AAMs would be non-historical.

2 Likes

Historically correct isn’t exclusive to adding ammunition it didn’t use, its also removing ammunition it did use. “Historically correct” is an absolute and changing anything makes it by definition inherently non-historical.

Also; the Australian version (the one coming to the game) only carried aim-9m if the information i’ve seen is correct, it might not be IDK (can’t seem to find it again), but still.

1 Like

F-111C manual lists 9Ls as well.
Begging for 12.7+ F-111C/F is not something I nor others want.
Nor is begging for restricting the ability to select loadouts in-match [BRs based on selected loadout].

Shouldn’t fastest jet be f15?

F-15C was the fastest, and it’s going to 2nd fastest with this update.
F-15C also isn’t the fastest bomber on live as that goes to Mirage 2000DR1, 2nd fastest tho.

I googled and apparently f15 top speed is 1650 mph but f111f was 1452

again:

And being capable of carrying something doesn’t mean it ever did in service (like the JAS39 and R-darters discussion).

not part of the discussion, its an effect of it but not inherently a part of the discussion.
I asked if you didn’t want historical loadouts.

1 Like

USAF museum states f15c top speed as 1875mph

Except we never used them. It’s not historical. Raaf went from aim9 B to the M and then the X, never used the L.

2 Likes

It’s basically the reverse of the F-4F & AIM-9J scenario.

It would be like 12.3 then pretty much

You worked for General Dynamics? I doubt that.
We’re not LARPing as militaries, so bringing up their decision is 100% irrelevant.

The Australian version. not all of the planes in existence.

Yet you just stated 10 minutes ago:

So now you are contradicting yourself.

3 Likes

A 12.7 F-111C doesn’t sound fun.
Like putting AIM-9Lis on an F-4F so it can be 12.7… why…

Also manufacturers aren’t militaries, thanks for proving I’m consistent.

Again, not part of my question.
Do you or do you not want historically correct loadouts for vehicles in the game?
Simple question, yes or no.

manufacturers make them to the specifications made by the militaries.
Additionally, for historical correctness its absolutely 100% relevant to bring up those decisions.

1 Like

There are official pilot reports of the f111 reaching 3.2 Mach. It’s only my word for it but when I was a cadet in the late 90s the pigs were often talked about as going Mach 3.2 up the QLD coast to use fuel.

A patently it could exceed Mach 2.4 but heat was the issue and they had an automated timer that triggered after exceeding set surface temp.

3 Likes

Damn, I liked the f111 but didn’t know it was packing that speed.

Although the 3.2 claims could be due to instruments starting to give wrong reading