F-102A Delta Dagger: The “Bear” Hunter

I’m genuinely curious if the falcons are still effective against bombers with these revamped damage models because of the lack of proxy fuse. The tiny warhead in the aim-4 falcon was enough to take down a b-17 btw.

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If it ends up not getting anything hope it gets a lower rating
Would be quite the quirky plane flying around super fast looking for noticeably slow targets

Nevermind the F-106A which looks incredibly similar, especially at range.

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They are not

This B-29 took two and kept flying like nothing happened
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Well that just confirms the damage model is a bit overtuned/overpressure damage from bombs has a smaller radius than it should be (hole in the fuselage too small).

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Oh damage models are way overtuned. Those test flight B-29s eat just about everything if it doesn’t hit the pilot basically.

The only weapon I have found to RELIABLY kill them is a Kh38MT, which has ~150kg HE and is contact fused lol

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AGM-65G also works pretty well for me

I didn’t even try AGM65s since they guide so poorly lol

on the first dev i had a Do 217 eat 8 and still keep flying

it later crashed due to having too much drag to stay aloft

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it needs this missile

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had that issue as well when shooting directly rear aspect
since they are trying to hit some specific module in the bombers and then just miss

but when they hit they one shot the bombers in the test drive

i think the difference in damage between the Aim-54 and AGM-65 is due to the Maverick having a contact fuze

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Even so, the Phoenix doesn’t struggle at shooting anything else down (or any of the other missiles when getting a hit on such an easy target). These bombers’ structural strength is way overtuned.

moreso missile damage is undertuned to compensate for how weak all previous update planes are. all planes need a damage model buff, and missiles need proper warheads (like continuous rod, for example) instead of just blast fragmentation.

These missiles only have issues with fictionally buffed bombers. Everything else is destroyed as expected.

I agree that missiles should easily kill the new bombers. however, I do not believe the new bombers are “fictionally buffed”, only that the way missiles do damage right now in game is incorrect, and that all planes need a damage model buff.

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It’s not just missiles. I was testing how a 75mm cannon with HE shells would do. Even a direct hit to a wing fuel tank caused no fire and relatively little structural damage. He could keep flying effortlessly.

Works just fine on every other plane. It’s a bomber issue.

i think the F102A is fine AIM-4 super falcons are barely usuable as is imagine trying to with even less pull it would be useless there would be no reason to take them

considering if it had a worse kit it cant go lower than 9.0

yea no gun pod is gona be really rough for the F-102 cuz I play the F106 a lot and im telling you that 80% of my kills are with my guns, the missiles are very hard to use cuz the motor on it is trash and it’s not hard to dodge

Next up: F-107

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Ultra sabre fans rise up

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