Everything wrong with the Mirage IIIS (and Discussion)

Thats OK. I found a section that does mostlikely confirm monopulse.
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Typical GJ denials. But the document from 1969, confirmed in varios sections that the Mirage IIIS was the first aircraft in Europe to have a ballistic a/g computer. And its is written very clearly that the system tells the pilot when to push the trigger for weapon release and that the impact point of the bomb is calculated automatically.


In other words it has CCRP (Das auslösen erfolgt automatisch, same. Balistic computer calculates the time of the release) and CCIP (“optische Signals”, means nothing else).

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New skins for the Mirage:

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Not sooo new… ;-)

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where is it in the tech tree

In the German bomber line

Nice camos.

They look better than the official ones

idk what Gaijins problem is to just not make it that the panels are showing

Thanks!

I always strive to get as close to The Real Thing as possible.

Absolutely love that one:
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If it wasn’t for the “stabilizer malfunction” and wrong Sidewinder, this one could almost pass as real photo…

The default skins in WT usually look way more dirtier and gritty than the original aircraft with lots of little or not so little errors.

Already downloaded the first camo, waiting for uptade to drop :)

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Update tomorrow and the datamine just hit:

  • JATO (slot 3 and 7, same as the Falson slots)
  • Centerline Fuel tank (880 liters) (slot 5)
  • changes in the SEPR 844 rocket booster (gun can now be equipped with the booster)
  • added an optional conformal fuel tank (slot 6, instead of gun?)
  • Removed the AS-30 Nord (the LB 66)
  • Removed the wrong underwing fueltanks

I don’t know why they removed the AS-30. The Mirage could carry it irl.

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Yeah removing the NORAS makes zero sense, as does keeping the bombs. Should be exactly the inverse.

But what I am totally disappointed about is obviously the painfull lack of any improvements of the Sidewinder armament: The KAWEST 85 Mirage with missiles from the seventies is just a no-go!

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Comes on the list of stuff we have to report again:

  • Radar still not right
  • Ballistic computer wrongfully removed
  • EEGS on the guns
  • AS-30 wrongfully removed

I will take this post over to the normal forum when the dev-server category closes

@Schindibee do you have or can you get access to primary sources for these things, so the Tech Mods don’t complain again…

Sadly I haven’t been able to dig up volume 2 of the MIRO’s pilot manual, which tackles the TARAN and weapon system in detail.

I have collected the data a bit about the Mirage variant we get in game and its armament, and tried to present it in a graphical way:

The issue always was and apparently remains that they have taken the upgraded MIRO from the last third of its service life, but given it the weapons of somewhere around the end of the first third of its service life.

What I really don’t understand - and I’ve tried to now for weeks: When they wanted a Swiss Mirage IIIS at 10.3 with weapons from the Seventies (which is perfectly ok!), then why on earth did they model the KAWEST 85 Mirage from the Nineties?!?

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would we want AiM-9P5 with the corresponding BR increase on the Mirage tho?

where it sits rn the Falcons are useful, at a Higher BR they are not

that is true but they could have given it the aim-9-3 without too much of an BR increase

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  • 9P-5 would lift the MIRO to 11.3-11.7, but that could work well (good RWR, CMS, see Thai F-5’s)
  • 9P-4 would lift it to 11.0-11.3 (see Norwegian F-5)
  • 9P-3 would lift it to 10.7-11.0

To give it the AIM-9P3 would be the absolute “forgiveable” minimum. I think at 10.3 where it sits now it’s quite superior to the French IIIE at the same BR, thanks to better RWR, CMS, 2x SARH.

As to FALCO’s higher in BR, well yes, they would be less relevant and capable - which is also why they were rarely used in Switzerland after the KAWEST 85 upgrade, with the MIRO’s mainly focusing on the by then much more capable AIM-9P-3/4/5’s…

The best would really have been to get two versions, the pre-upgrade and the post upgrade one.
But I fear now that they mixed the two “variants”, they basically made the future addition of the pre-upgrade impossible/nonsensical, restricting further development of the Swiss subtree quite painfully…

And the sad thing: for the Swiss Tiger’s they did exactly the same thing, aircraft modifications of the 2000’s (which only were upgraded by the US Navy after part of the fleet had been sold to them…), but with armament from the late Seventies, early Eighties…

Now updated to the state of the live server after the update!

Version 2.47.0.10

Hi everyone. Seems there’s problem with its JATO and its booster.
If u bring the booster u will find JATO flame (from the air) appeared since u turn the booster on. It seems to be a display error.

Instead of complaining about the Mirage, I want to quickly praise the plane here.

The Mirage IIIS is the Mirage I always wanted to have, but never quite got until now.
Great RWR, plenty of countermeasures that’ll last a lifetime, points the nose everywhere you want to thanks to the Canards and to top it all off, it allows the usage of guns and the SEPR booster. All at a good Br. The Mirage IIIS is a very welcomed breath of fresh air after playing the Mirage IIIE for years and hundreds of games

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