Every nation should have AIM-9M/R-73 counterpart

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#1

I don’t think it’s a good balancing decision to give two of the best missiles in the game to only 3 nations (I’m not even counting Italy because they get the 9M on a Harrier, not even a fighter).
What I propose is:
AIM-9M for F-16C (and possibly Block 15 ADF, should go 12.3)
R-73 for MiG-29 9-12A (should go to 12.3)
R-73 for MiG-29 9-13 (should go to 12.3)
AIM-9M for F-16AJ (can be substituted with AAM-3, should go 12.3)
AIM-9M for F-16A MLU and PL-8B for J-8F (both should go 12.3 in that case)
AIM-9M for Italian F-16A (should go 12.3)

As for France and Sweden, I’m not familiar enough with French a2a missiles, and Sweden didn’t use the AIM-9M to my knowledge, and the IRIS-T would be a bad idea.

Tell me what you think about my suggestion. Cheers!

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#2

AIM-9M isnt counter to R-73.
Only way to keep balance - add AIM-9X or other analogs with thrust vectoring.

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#3

Nope

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#4

I don’t think you entirely know what you’re talking about, AIM-9X would be the death of the Air RB

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#5

Yep

#6

And R-73 isnt?
Nice joke))

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#7

They could add aim9l(i) to the European nations as well.

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#8

At least in the case of R-73 you can flare it, good luck with flaring the 9X. Look, I’m a US main, and I don’t want the 9X cause I realize how bad it would be for other nations…

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#10

good luck flaring 9m you wont dodge it in headon aspect nor sideaspect and if you have 30 flares aka 30flares/30chaff your plane just cant compete anymore

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#11

it won’t come to the game in this state, they clearly still haven’t fixed the IRCCM yet

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#12

ye lets hope as according to @k_stepanovich 9M IRCCM is worse than R-73 IRCCM so it should still see alot more flares and be easier to flare than R-73 is right now its other way around
And here is proof that he said that

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#13

I would love to see their source showing the base R73 is competitive with Stinger POST but yeah 9M is clearly overperforming

#14

Well you can go and ask stephanovich he will most likely explain everything

#15

Tornado F3 needs 9Ms too

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#16

True skill-based gameplay was Sabre/Hunter vs MiGs/CL fr

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#17

AIM-9X has like three if not more “sub-versions” with different performance, so no it wouldn’t be the death of Air RB because if early variant of R-73 ain’t then early variant of AIM-9X not gonna be either.

Furthermore while I agree with AIM-9M being given to more planes since it’s only gets countermeasure discrimination but not even smokeless motor so far, but giving R-73 to early MiG-29 ain’t good idea, tbh I would prefer if first MiG-29 had only access to R-60M, R-27R and R-27T and nothing more so it would has bigger difference between it and newer MiG-29, also F-14B used AIM-9M so yeah.

#18

I’m prettying sure whoever has highest maximum sea level speed wins or survives back then, it was much more boring than current meta. That kinda drove Gaijin to implement missiles, since zooming away at maximum speed was killing top tier, it took forever to queue top tier jets back then.
The better airframe simply fly away at maximum top speed at the slightest hint of losing, slowly gains distance and reset. That’s not skill based at all and even worse than current meta.
Only props between 3.0 and 6.0 and early jets requires some true skills, top tier was always about who has the best airframe, unless they are flying exactly the same airframe.
Also the brief era when missile was introduced with only ahistorical 5-10G, that makes it almost useless, but extremely useful to counter players who are zooming away at maximum speed, thus can be used to force more dogfight which is much more exciting.

#19

I mean seeing how they are adding the Python 4 and it being giganerfed I wouldn’t say it is too bad

#20

I don’t know how well the PL-8B will perform, but the energy loss of the J-8F remains significant and I find it ridiculous that it is the same BR as the F-16C. Even the current 11.7 is overrated:3

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