F-22 is better at maneuvering, but up until recently it didnt have an HMD, and had 90’s hardware for basically all its stuff cuz LM made it super hard to upgrade. Typhoon pilots have stated F-22’s would typically win gunfights while Typhoon would win dogfights with missiles.
That being said, F-22 is obviously a very hard kill for any jets, as can be seen by the fact it typically gets its own unique kill mark when someone does “shoot” one down (in exercises)
German Typhoon with 3 F-22 kill marks (and a ton of other non-specific ones):
Anyone saying or alluding to either jet winning all fights is being ridiculous. Neither the EFT or F-22 are invincible, nor is any jet for that matter.
It doesnt unless its carrying external stores. Its 6x AMRAAM + 2x sidewinders, same as EFT.
And an HMD, since the F-22 is still only testing HMD atm iirc
Probably will get the Rafale treatment yeah, though itd be a heck of a lot less dumb on gaijins part to add it without HMD at first, and keep that in their back pocket as a buff if need be. Seeing how they handle the Rafalae situation though, I dont have high hopes for their balancing decisions with the F-22 either…
And the rafale did 140 degrees, -40kt in test flight according to a report. I don’t think that’s the best indicator of flight performances. To this day a competent EFT will win against an equally competent Rafale with the Rafale having quite significantly better AOA authority compared to the EFT in game.
While the F22 has much more powerful engines, it’s also significantly heavier than the euro canard. I do also think that the TVC and the canard maneuvrability method do compensate each other to some degrees. If you were to ask me today who would win between a f22 and an EFT or Rafale in close range engagements, I’m not sure I could give a definite answer. The F22 is probably still better overall in air dominance if you don’t consider its currently aging tech, but if it gets updated soon (radar, IRST, HMD…), then it’ll likely take it’s spot back
Ima be real with you here, the F-22 weighs about as much as a fully fuelled flanker while empty.
I do not have high expectations for dogfight performance, particularly against a eurocanard.
Yeah, it should have a flight control system that prevents it from losing too much speed ingame, but I have my doubts on their ability to implement something like that
