Eurofighter vs Rafale battlefield

@Cravenplayz
gonna shift it here real quick cause uh:

EFT thrust: 8670x2 =17,340
EFT mass: 11340kg


17340/11340=1.529

RFL thrust: 7330x2 =14,660
RFL mass: 9420kg


14660/9420=1.556….?

You are apparently right, and I am now very confused, because you should not be right which means something else is very wrong.

Or the Rafale just has a higher T/W? I hate to break it to you but the Rafale might just be a good, dare I say decent fighter jet.

You do get 1.57 TWR if you adjust the typhoons empty weight down to 11000

But alas, marketing lies and we are stuck at 11340

No… Ignoring that the rafale can pull harder, having better energy retention is always good since you can use your air brake or lower engine throttle to tighten the circle/bleed more speed

I disagree, the logic I am using is pretty simple. Someone who say, wants the F-2 will probably buy a Japanese premium to grind it out. If they decide they want a Rafale later, they’ll need to buy a French premium too. That’s a missed sale for them if that player can use their Japanese premium for both.

And as for “giving french players a taste of their own medicine”; that’s basically a spin on crab mentality and crab mentality is a cancerous (geddit?) mentality that shouldn’t be replaced with similarly unintelligent revenge schemes.

Revenge nerfs/copypasta aren’t going to make anyone happy for particularly long.

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I was talking about a situation where Gaijin does not add LOAL capability.

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The typhoon currently sits at its highest possible empty weight of all available sources, and the rafale at the lowest. Additionally just about anything on the EF ever will quote the thrust as 180kN (quite significantly more than 17300kgf).

Draw your own conclusions of that lol.

Not sure about anyone else but I wouldn’t trust gaijin to implement the LOAL in a way that works. LOBL would probably just be objectively more reliable anyways.

Looking forward to the tk’s LOAL will bring with it haha.

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The 180kN are uninstalled thrust. When the engines are installed in the airframe they lose some thrust due to the restricted airflow.

Edit: This assumption is inaccurate

I personally have some doubts about that, since the EJ200’s arent actually operating at peak output in the EFT. They’ve been derated for decreased wear and therefore increased life expectancy.

Installed thrust being lower than 180kN combined would make sense as an argument if 90kN individual, and 180kN combined was the engines peak output and they were operating at said level while experiencing channel loss, but since they’re never operating at their true peak output of 95kN individual or 190kN combined, the stated 180kN on all EFT documentation could be argued to be the installed thrust imo.

Documents explicitly say the 90 kN rating is uninstalled.

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Ty for the correction

As if AMRAAM wasn’t bad enough at it…

Same Rafale that needs an upgraded engine because it no longer meets the requirements?
Remind me in 20 years how many engine upgrades has Typhoon needed?

I’m expecting over the shoulder shots to tk the teammate chasing the guy on your six.

Im expecting over the shoulder shot to TK myself…

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Ohh that would be peak and almost certainly going to happen. I await the videos haha.

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yup, it’s only going to make toxicity worse.

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Surely will be accepted for the thunder show xD

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