Yeah not a chance, that’s just out and out wrong lol.
So we get stitched.
At least it’s historical this time haha
If it only would be cas difference it wouldnt be that bad since u have many cas options.
Bigger problem propably is that block 5 came with the hmd, which the uk would lack in that case
Nah, it’s understandable after all, I’m basically the only Italian guy active in this thread while there are many more Germans and British. Unfortunatly no one besides very few people in the Italian community care about what happens in the forum in general XD.
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I will be waiting for the bug report about the pasta maker in the Typhoon’s cockpit not being modelled correctly.
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Gonna sit right behind the british tea kettle report in the que
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Any and all legitimate bug reports are useful, helpful and shows the communities dedication and passion to getting aircraft to perform as close to real life as possible, we should acknowledge them all.
on a scale of tornado f.3 to mirage 2000, do we know how fuel efficent the EJ200’s will be?
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I don’t know about this scale but wikipedia puts it pretty much identical in specific fuel consumption to F404… So F-20/Gripen level.
Is there any info on the towed decoys? What variants carried it? How effective would they be?
austrians dont carry it
and half of german T1s.
otherwise every variant has 2 of them.
effectiveness is obviously classified
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Highly doubt we’ll ever see towed decoys.
War Thunder is rapidly approaching “best guess” territory for how good certain features can perform.
Without the add-on aerodynamic kit it was my understanding that it beat things in regards to sustained turns and energy retention from a higher speed. The F-14 is already quite good at showing why that isn’t the be-all-end-all where you’ll just eat an R-73 or other IRCCM missile with your butt cheeks.
Yet these systems generally work just as well and the American aircraft tend to carry more pylons and ordnance than the British ones anyway… minus the stealth fighter which actually has a reason for internally mounting such equipment.
Most US equipment has had MAWS for some time now, it’s just RWR based maws. The American aircraft pretty much lose close-in fights handily going forward unless you’re talking about the F/A-18C with GE-402 engines. The rest of them aren’t jamming the WEZ with any ease. In other words, there is no need for IR based MAWS on just about any of them unless they fix the performance issues with the seeker on the R-27T/ET or if the MICA-IR is added.
Every AIM-120 has datalink, the AIM-120D has a two-way datalink but that doesn’t mean the other missiles can’t be supported through electronic warfare by datalink information from the launch platforms radar. The EFT will surely be effective in dogfights in-game if Gaijin adds it akin to the way they added the Gripen.
So it begins, everyone says the Typhoon is analogue to the F-22 and when push comes to shove and it’s time for it to show up to the game y’all switch your stance? Now it’s unfair?? Now it’s inferior?
You have all the cool electronic warfare to counter AMRAAM’s and the fancy IRST to spot stealth fighters. What happened to the ASRAAM being so potent? What happened to beating the F-22 WVR? You serious? Now it can’t hold a candle?
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Eurofighters with PIRATE are arguably the best 4th gen to fight 5th gen’s like the raptor. The whole point of that system was to counter stealth aircraft. Leaving everything else aside, eurofighter variants and the f-35 are all thats left really for the UK/ITA/GER.
Unless you want cookie cutter lobbies of F-35/F-22/J-20/SU-57 then you’ve gotta include the 4.5 Gen airframes. I’d expect there to be a fair bit of overlap just to keep up player counts.
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The ALE-50 fits in dedicated faring on the wing, which don’t take the place of regular stores.
Image of the Faring in question
Or are integrated into modern variants of some ECM pods (e.g. ALQ-184(V)9) that provide the capability to older airframes.
Also the ALE-55 is also a thing for some F/A-18 & F-35 variants.
Depends on which you mean, The PIDS+ pylon adapter will provide that capability to Some F-16’s
The report for its addition to the US F-16C has been accepted.
Also the “PoBiT” F-16 (F-16V) is also a thing so there is the potential for a less abrupt jump from F-16C-50 / F-15E > F-15EX > F-22 / F-35.
Brits seem to think that the F-15 was equipt with some form of MAW (ALQ-127) But I can’t find much out about it, only that said system was used on the E-3 & later B-52s, and it was upgraded and redesignated as the ALQ-153 (?Solid state?).
Though the ALQ-153 (not the ALQ-135, which is an ECM pod also carried by the F-15), is also fitted to some variants of the ALQ-131 & -184, which again is carried by various Teen series airframes, but will likely depend on the specific nation in question for carriage due to availability, but would explain why it was listed as such.
The inverse is not necessarily true, it’s just that its resistant to the methods that are preferentially used for other types of seekers, the same way monopulse seeker are resistant to techniques used against Conical scanning types, which again are resistant to techniques used against Cassegrain antenna, etc.
Sure there is a lot of things that you could do with reprogrammable digital hardware, a datalink and the prospective ability to zone T/R elements to effectively perform TWS via TVM methods to disambiguate contacts into decoys and targets, that make things a nightmare for a defensive system, but it’s not inherent to the Seeker itself, it also makes said missiles very costly to produce and so if you could get away with something less performant but available in significantly greater numbers there is a tradeoff to be had.
Just use the IRSTS and dumpster it at a distance, Stealth only works so well especially if supersonic (and necessitates no external stores, and internal carriage limits constrains magazine depth significantly, which can be taken advantage of during BVR with care if you can successfully bait launches), and besides it’s not likely to receive the " Plus 5" motor " (-120C-5 & later) variants without counterparts for other nations, and the standard AIM-9M / Basic AIM-9X should form a solid baseline of performance for SRMs and really aren’t that good since they still only have 30G’s and no TVM, and seeker performance is similar to the ASRAAM (the relative advantages they would theoretically bring to the table aren’t relevant in War Thunder). Which again outside of the IRCCM, and Smokeless motor don’t actually improve on the kinematic performance of the AIM-9L, and arguably the range of the AIM-9D since the performance specs are similar; which we know is erroneous, but is waiting on Gaijin to action said reports;
The lack of a a HMD (unless we get a Block 20, in a trialed configuration, which if will significantly constrains A2G loadouts, due to no BRU-61 (used for GBU-39 & -53)) will further cause acquisition issues post merge.
Example F-22 Stores Loading Chart
Yes it is, if the sun is up you get skin returns that form a contrast, and Blackbody ration due to said supersonic flight due to Wien’s displacement means that its a tiny fraction of the energy but considering we know that Sensors can detect changes less than .25 degrees kelvin, the contrast should be noticeable, and that’s all a imaging senor needs We know that the FIM-92 for example can detect out to at least out to ~6.5km.
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That’s pretty much any modern RWR. It won’t alert to IR, passive radar homing, or missiles with radars that fall out of the RWR band detection though.
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J-35
TF Kaan
Su-75
KF-21
F/A-18E block 3
Rafale variants
Gripen-E
There are many low observable or even VLO airframes you are leaving out… but yes most countries will have an F-35 variant and nothing will change. It is how it is now with F-15, F-16, Su-27, Mirage 2000
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The TRDs should be highly effective. It basically makes it near impossible for home on jam mode missiles to hit the aircraft as the thing doing the jamming is 100 m behind the aircraft.
I did find one memo discussing trials of a prototype TRD on the Tornado in the United States. Apparently if you deployed chaff while using the TRD the missile miss distances it generated were “remarkable”. The British engineers seemed to think it was nothing short of a revolution in electronic warfare technology and the Americans were apparently also impressed.
With the Eurofighter’s TRD being newer, and not a prototype it would presumably be very effective.
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Interesting, I guess its up to gaijin if they want to add jammers to the game. It would be cool if they were so good it forces more of a wvr meta again although jammer effectiveness to different radars would probably be complete guesswork. Is there any information on if the jammers get destroyed easily by nearby missile detonations?
On reheat, I think they are a tad thirsty. But, unlike the F3,.you can supercruise in a typhoon
More efficient than Mirage 2000. At least as efficient as the F-404 engine.