its still a German Eurofighter…
but who knows. the same thing was the case for the swedish helicopters and those were added as well
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I feel like being in Luftwaffe service and Airbus Germany’s test airframe are two separate things. Its not like its WTD 61, my personal actual take on AMK+PIRATE+whatever else is add them to all of them equally, as you pointed out its modular and this solution stops anyone getting salty, it also means they all stand a good chance against 5th gens at the end of the line.
This is true, there is the silly ‘they tested it’ argument.
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i mean… there’s a danish test pilot who’s working for EADS and does EF testing but we’re not considering adding this to the swedish tree, are we
That’s not what I’m saying at all.
My point is, if its not a Luftwaffe aircraft and is instead an Airbus Integration and Test Aircraft which happens to be registered in Manching, then its not really German in the sense one of the Bavarian Tigers is German.
If you were to agree with that, then you could just as easily say that if all the partners financed P4E and all of them only tested, then all of them have the same claim to the modular add-on kit.
Also it might be a hot take but I was hoping to see the DA.s first, I know not all of them were armed or had radars (besides having missiles bolted on for marketing).
I hope this won’t be a case where its ludicrously broken and gets nerfed beyond reality only to remain nerfed for years. Hence why I liked the idea of the DA.s
the whole point here is to give the german TT something special after missing out on FLIR/IRST and LWS as i dont think gaijin will implement FLIR/IRST for the tpod…
they can add the DA5
that also had the LERX for testing 😈
If you were to model it on IPA7 you’d also get PIRATE, and considering we’ve seen it feature on a WTD 61 EFT they could very reasonably give Germany PIRATE anyway (which I wouldn’t oppose unless they were the only nation to get AMK)
That would give them virtually everything due to Airbus’ test aircraft being the most active because if you break the rule somewhat partially, you might as well go all-in.
If they were to not model it that way and it was PIRATE or AMK then I see that as fair for both sides. But again my favourite solution is give everyone mostly everything.
I agree with what you are saying about the TPOD.
Hence my favourite solution is the one where gaijin goes ‘its a modular aircraft they will be modelled mostly the same with some weaponry differences’ or something to that effect.
I have both trees at top tier ( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°)
as for the RWR it was originally made by an american company which was then bought by BAE, BAE made the F-35 RWR but the F-22’s is american.
the different IPA test planes are owned by the specific nations, they are only “loaned” for the testing
The IPA 7 is german, not the other countries.
Its not part of the Luftwaffe yes, but owned and part of germany itself
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I believe those are the ISPA aircraft, not the IPA aircraft. I could be wrong though.
there are no german ISPAs
at least not with the ISPA designation.
the 3, 7 and 8 are technically serial production aircraft
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That’s what Shini was referencing I believe in aircraft being on loan, ISPA’s=the nations aircraft on loan. IPA’s=the companies aircraft on behalf of Eurofighter Jagdflugzeug GmbH.
IPA (Instrumented Production Aircraft), ISPA (Instrumented Series Production Aircraft)
the version has nothing to do with its origin or from where its owned
also apparently the IPAs do still retain their cannon. its the ISPAs that have had their gun taken out to stuff that place full of avionics.
IPAs have the sensors and stuff in other parts. such as the landing gear, wings, etc. they’re purpose built for testing, not modified afterwards
The fact that they are series production is actually important, because they make up part of that nations air force, for example ISPA 5 was returned to the RAF after testing.
IPSA is an aircraft that is production-ine intended for an air force and is borrowed for testing which involves removing their guns which are removed for flight test equipment. However as faster boi has pointed out IPA’s are deliberately designed as test airframes for companies to test systems and integration with, if Germany/Luftwaffe solely were explicitly testing AMK it would have been on a WTD61 aircraft.
ISPA’s are explicitly the property of the air force of that nation, IPA’s are the property of the company they are operated by.
As you said it has nothing to do with where its owned and everything to do with the company that owns it more specifically how it is a company and not a nation/defence force.
remind me but does it get more than 8 missiles?
The IPA variants are typically modified from early production aircraft to incorporate additional sensors and instrumentation needed for test flights.
These aircraft may have non-standard features to support specific tests or experiments, such as additional instrumentation pods, sensors, or control systems.
ISPA Models:
The ISPA variants are based on production aircraft but are modified to include instrumentation and testing equipment required for evaluating advanced capabilities.
ISPA aircraft tend to have fewer experimental systems than the IPAs, as they are closer to the final production configuration. However, they still carry special equipment for gathering data on aircraft systems under operational conditions.
It doesnt matter cause the IPA 07 is still german and its german tested as a result
Whats gajin supposed to do add the IPA 07 to every nation with german livery lol
Face it, it is german and if added right now would only be added to germany
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yes