This is a slight misconception afaik, I’m not going to debate who should get AMK we’ve seen this play out haha, but simply to provide context.
Firstly IPA7 is less of a ‘German’ Eurofighter yes it’s German flagged, no its not owned by the Luftwaffe yes it will probably go to WTD61, its an Airbus Defence and Space (EADS) Eurofighter operated for testing and integration on behalf of the Eurofighter consortium. AMK being an Airbus product was tested on Airbus’ Eurofighter.
Even Eurofighter say it’s an ‘EADS’ Eurofighter
Secondly, all of the partner nations tested AMK, not just Germany, it was first tested by Manching’s in-house (so EADS) test-pilots who fly for EADS, then all the partner nations flight tested the aircraft for evaluation, keeping in mind, this is again an Airbus owned Eurofighter not a ‘German/Luftwaffe’ Eurofighter.
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I believe that’s the ECM antenna rather than the MAWS antenna.
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Let me find a different source, its definitely AESA right?
@quartas121 I might have misunderstood on that front, it likely is just a normal array, either way it has 360 degree coverage so AESA probably isn’t even needed as its not scanning and is PD.
Thanks Flame for pointing out my error.
I think with a few good AAM’s the stock grind won’t require bombing, maybe in Sim which is Morv’s main mode.
its still a German Eurofighter…
but who knows. the same thing was the case for the swedish helicopters and those were added as well
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I feel like being in Luftwaffe service and Airbus Germany’s test airframe are two separate things. Its not like its WTD 61, my personal actual take on AMK+PIRATE+whatever else is add them to all of them equally, as you pointed out its modular and this solution stops anyone getting salty, it also means they all stand a good chance against 5th gens at the end of the line.
This is true, there is the silly ‘they tested it’ argument.
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i mean… there’s a danish test pilot who’s working for EADS and does EF testing but we’re not considering adding this to the swedish tree, are we
That’s not what I’m saying at all.
My point is, if its not a Luftwaffe aircraft and is instead an Airbus Integration and Test Aircraft which happens to be registered in Manching, then its not really German in the sense one of the Bavarian Tigers is German.
If you were to agree with that, then you could just as easily say that if all the partners financed P4E and all of them only tested, then all of them have the same claim to the modular add-on kit.
Also it might be a hot take but I was hoping to see the DA.s first, I know not all of them were armed or had radars (besides having missiles bolted on for marketing).
I hope this won’t be a case where its ludicrously broken and gets nerfed beyond reality only to remain nerfed for years. Hence why I liked the idea of the DA.s
the whole point here is to give the german TT something special after missing out on FLIR/IRST and LWS as i dont think gaijin will implement FLIR/IRST for the tpod…
they can add the DA5
that also had the LERX for testing 😈
If you were to model it on IPA7 you’d also get PIRATE, and considering we’ve seen it feature on a WTD 61 EFT they could very reasonably give Germany PIRATE anyway (which I wouldn’t oppose unless they were the only nation to get AMK)
That would give them virtually everything due to Airbus’ test aircraft being the most active because if you break the rule somewhat partially, you might as well go all-in.
If they were to not model it that way and it was PIRATE or AMK then I see that as fair for both sides. But again my favourite solution is give everyone mostly everything.
I agree with what you are saying about the TPOD.
Hence my favourite solution is the one where gaijin goes ‘its a modular aircraft they will be modelled mostly the same with some weaponry differences’ or something to that effect.
I have both trees at top tier ( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°)
as for the RWR it was originally made by an american company which was then bought by BAE, BAE made the F-35 RWR but the F-22’s is american.
the different IPA test planes are owned by the specific nations, they are only “loaned” for the testing
The IPA 7 is german, not the other countries.
Its not part of the Luftwaffe yes, but owned and part of germany itself
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I believe those are the ISPA aircraft, not the IPA aircraft. I could be wrong though.
there are no german ISPAs
at least not with the ISPA designation.
the 3, 7 and 8 are technically serial production aircraft
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That’s what Shini was referencing I believe in aircraft being on loan, ISPA’s=the nations aircraft on loan. IPA’s=the companies aircraft on behalf of Eurofighter Jagdflugzeug GmbH.
IPA (Instrumented Production Aircraft), ISPA (Instrumented Series Production Aircraft)
the version has nothing to do with its origin or from where its owned
also apparently the IPAs do still retain their cannon. its the ISPAs that have had their gun taken out to stuff that place full of avionics.
IPAs have the sensors and stuff in other parts. such as the landing gear, wings, etc. they’re purpose built for testing, not modified afterwards
