Eurofighter Typhoon (UK versions) - Technical data and discussion

Covers Hawk Vs Gripen and compared to Typhoon as well.

All the Typhoon had to do was put its lift vector on and pull and there was zero thought

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The fact somebody is comparing the Hawk, primarily a training aircraft to a gripen makes me laugh

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ikr its like comparing the alpha jet to an F16

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Woah, don’t disrespect the hawk with a comparison to the alpha jet

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My takeaway would be that the Gripen while heavy is somewhat even until the Gripen is on internal fuel then the Hawk is dead. And with Typhoon the Hawk is always dead. Considering the Hawk can instant turn at around 22deg/s peak its getting mullered by the EFT which is alot higher than than 22deg/s believe me haha.

I was under the impression the Hawk had rather… modest performance characteristics, perhaps I was mistaken.

22deg/s instant and sustains at 14deg/s its good not amazing. Really only good below 5000/ft

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Thanks, pretty modest then but workable for sure and they come with nice kit.

You might not know off of the top of your head but how does that compare to other similar aircraft.

(Gina, Gnat, Sabre, Alphajet etc?).

Bit better than an F.3 (if the F.3 was performing correctly). But I don’t have charts to hand for those examples. The Hawk suffers from the engine being pretty poor. Thats why instant is pretty respectable but sustained starts dropping off hard as you leave SL.

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Slap an after burner on the engine

Chuck an EJ-200 in there. I want supersonic Hawk for the UK’s next Trainer-Light Attacker.

Hawk 2000 | Secret Projects Forum

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Hurray, now we cope max:
Next update they will add a hawk with ASRAAM, Active Skyflash and a EJ200

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Premium at 13.7 then 15.0

So here’s an interesting capability I wasn’t aware of before. The Litening III targeting pod on the Eurofighter is capable of simultaneously guiding two different Laser Guided Bombs to two different tracked targets:

This is also mentioned in the Litening III datasheet:

Thanks to @DirectSupport for pointing this out.

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huh, so it’s essentially multiplexing lasing the target. neat.

I wonder what the limits are, if its only within a certain region, or within the entire gimbal limit of the TGP

I’d imagine there’s a limit to the angular difference between the targets, and probably a limit on the relative velocity of the targets to each other too.

i imagine it requires IOG bombs and then switches between like TWS.

I’d imagine there are no limits. Its hard to find videos of the Litening III pod, but here’s a counterpart from the Rafale’s Talios pod:

You can see it track as many targets popping into view.
Timestamp: 1:35

thats just tracking, not lasing. the apache does the same thing