again, you cant say if that wont be the case for the EWAR either,
no no its been clear from the start the MK2 requires a new nose, which is extra cost which is why some have opted not for it.
yes thats why potential mki1 for those that dont want to modify their nose, The EWAR is seperate thing, which might require upgrades.
And even then we were talking about the AMK kit here
not about the radars, which at the end of the day, will perform exactly the same in war thunder propably
It says its a software upgrade?
mentions modernisation of the processor as well. I am not the most well versed.
But like i said earlier we were talking about the AMK kit and PIRATE. In game purposes the radars wont have much of a difference. Besides that germany might get a AEASA variant first since the british and italian one apparently need a good bit longer
That doesnt say anything about superiority. New nose could for example also just be because it uses the same repositioner as the Gripen Es radar instead of one designed for Eurofighter
There also is the CAESAR, a fixed AESA, that was mounted on DA5 in 2007
well UK has DA5 with ceasar and Italy has ISPA6 with ECR MK0. Not good as the ECRS MK1 but still better than nothing.
https://defence-industry.eu/ecrs-mk2-radar-integrated-onto-first-eurofighter-typhoon-jet/
We already have the first one with the Mk.2 fitted and integrated
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In game only thing that will make difference, is that capable of rotating or not, even won’t matter if you have AESA
DA5 is German
yeah, sorry I made a mistake, it was IPA5
Well for one aim9x was $399k in 2023 for the US, IRIS-T cost spain $434k in 2011. ASRAAM I’m not sure on there’s no good public data that I know of but I would imagine it would be comparable.
Secondly. You have no knowledge on how mobile they are, their datalinks, the quality of their seekers and the other tech that goes into them. Asraam for example relied on US seeker tech for a while and thus was covered under ITAR, not removed until the block 6 that entered production in 2022. US has had extremely good seeker tech for a long time. IRIS-T and Aim9X aare very comparable from publics data and have very comparable costs. ASRAAM does have excellent range, however its small surfaces and lack of thrust vectoring leaves it less able in the subsonic and very short range than the 9x.
To tar any of these missiles as “shit” is just pure nationalism
The fact he was brining up aim9x and meteor makes me think not, it seems pretty clear he’s trying to make a comparison of real life capabilities
Iris-T is now down to 200-250k per missle
I’m a through and through American. The AIM-9X in reality is a perfectly acceptable weapon, cheap in costs and easy to produce. The US military wins purely from logistics while other countries usually and I say usually, has better one to one equipment.
I currently regard AIM-9X as one of the worst, if not the worst IIR missile right now. It is 50G, and has a range a bit more than AIM-9M which is short legged among modern IIR missiles.
When it comes to range, ASRAAM and MICA IR outranges it. When it comes to short range manueverability it is stuck at 50G while Python 5 does 70G and can loop around while also outranging AIM-9X. The IRIS-T has staggered thrust to reduce minimum radius while also being capable of upwards of 100Gs.
So in Warthuder terms, I’m gonna call it like I see it, it would be “shit”. But Warthunder doesn’t account for a country’s overwhelming logistics infrastructure that is whats needed to win wars.
The AIM-9X Block 3 was supposed to bring the weapon up to standards with more modern weapons, but it had been canceled.
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have a source for that? as I’ve yet to find a good credible source for it as an air to ait weapon, the last credible sources had it no less than 300k euro
I feel like you are having the problem where you’re looking at things from a cool stats number instead of… actual use. I’ve always said the trade off with ASRAAM, MICA IR has similar tradeoffs and is around 50% heavier. They’re also around 1m euros a peice, they’re not cheap. Secondly you just flatly don’t know how maneuverable the 9X is, every number like that is highly classified, at that point you;re repeating internet scuttlebutt at best. Because do you have an actual credible source for ANY of those numbers. I’m not going to say the 9x is the “Best” (we cannot actually say any of them and they all have tradeoffs) , but the 9X block II is an excellent missile worse in some ways better than other ways.
At this point, I’m not gonna argue about this with you any longer. Anyone who thinks the AIM-9X will be any way competitive with more modern IIR missiles is deluded. I already have a declassified US government document showing the AIM-9X is 50G. Why would you embarrass yourself to claim I do not have the numbers? AIM-9X will be reported to be 50G once it comes into the game.
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seriously realy only 50g lol, thats nearly nothing for newer missles
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