Just forgetting its buggy nature. Its missing features that should make it more like an E-Scan radar not an M-Scan.
The fact its even close to other M-Scan radars shows its underperforming massively.
underperforming? sure, wouldnt be surprised if every mech scan radar was underperforming due to gaijins methods of modeling, bad? absolutely not.
It is bad. Its one of the weakest radars above 13.0 and the weakest radar by far at 14.0.
and it is underperforming a LOT
Medium scan is decent, small scan is very good, always works but for some reason has utter terrible vertical scan angles, wide scan is just mid af. Whenever I use eurofighter, most of the time i use medium scan to find people then either rat in irst or switch to small scan for bvr. Medium scan is decent but loses track too much for my liking, small scan is simply the best because it always works/very consistent. Ofc, because it’s an M-scan, if there are many enemies on opposing gimbal limits on the radar, then ofc the radar is kinda cooked because it doesn’t get any priority/multiple track like pesa/aesa. The radar is decent in a vaccum, but compared to what it is irl and considering other planes have better M-scan patterns (f-15e, f16c etc) the eft radar is kinda dissapointing.
That for me only works about 60% of the time. I still have it loose targets especially within about 10km all the time with narrow scan
Though it should, it literally should have priority track
i do not notice a difference between f16/f18/ef radar and any performance deficits that may or may not exist are more than made up for by the euros nctr in my opinion, its not bad its just okay.
That’s true, but atp youre in visual range and can just hmd them very easily. But it is annoying I agree
IK it has it irl, but how would that even work on a mech-scan radar? PESA/AESA it’s obvious how it works on them, but how would it work on a mech-scan? Wouldn’t the refresh rate be utterly horrible?
Not always in SB, especially in look down. (and quite frankly “hard lock with HMD” just screams major radar issue)
@MythicPi did the math, it would update something like every 2-ish seconds. and would be easy to implement with the current code. Remember the CAPTOR-M can move its radar at 333°/sec
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It’s 70 degrees per second, idk where you’re getting 333 from. That is an absurd number.
I also play it mainly in sb, and my stats while not the best, are decent. OFC my rafale stats are much better because rafale is a literal baby plane lol. Su30 stats are also better becuase man that radar carriers it even though its FM is so mid.
Scan rate doesnt = the speed it can move its pedestal
second to last bullet point on the right.
I have straight up stopped playing the Typhoon. I cant be bothered to spend my entire time baby sitting the radar just to have every AMRAAM I fire shot down with ease by an Su-30 with more than double my ARH count (I only run 5 AMRAAM usually)
Its stupid that the best M-Scan radar in the world, cant keep lock on something barely turning and will sometimes straight up not detect something I can see visually from the contrails.
The only solution being “HMD the target” just screams broken radar to me. I have never once needed to “hard lock a contact” in the Tornado F3 until I was ready to actually fire a Skyflash and in the FA2 or Gripen I’ve never had an issue maintaining a track with TWS to guide an AMRAAM or R-Darter
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Broken is a bit of an overstatement, at close range yeah it struggles but so are most other mech scan radars at that range, OFC pesa/aesa radars don’t have any trouble at close range. Radar is meant for long range engagements anyways, at close range you really should be switching to HMD. Yes it means the radar is mid at close range but that’s not unique to the typhoon.
Have you played it recently? The radar is really not that bad compared to what it was before double scan fix, it feels perfectly normal to me. Basically on par with every other mech scan radar. Also how far out are you shooting amraams, usually for me they don’t have to be on data link at all becuase they go either instantly pitbull or they go pitbull in less than 5 seconds.
Again, never struggled with the FA2, Gripen or F3.
It is in my experience, heck, I have an easier time with the Blue Fox than I do with the CAPTOR-M at close range.
I played it tonight, constant ghost contacts, the track was just randomly jumping between real and fake marks and more than once I could barely get it to actually hard lock the thing I was apparently tracking on TWS.
I will still choose Blue Vixen or Foxhunter over it currently any day of the week.
Usually in the LSZ if I can, because firing from any further away from that and they are just instantly defeated
Honestly at this point, I think they should just give us CAPTOR-E. Its pretty clear the US are about to get an F-15 or F-18 with AESA. Japan is about to get AESA. Sweden is about to get AESA. At this rate, we’ll be one of the only nations with a basic M-Scan radar because they probably wont actually model Priority track on a M-Scan radar because “game limitaitons”
what makes you think they wont give it a new radar when the time is right
Because they never have before.
and besides, the right time was when the Rafale went from PESA to AESA… Oh wait
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Well, just tried a match in ASB on Tunisia.
Conclusion.
- Every single AMRAAM is just intercepted by an R-77-1.
- Radar failed to find targets multiple times
- A few times narrow track didnt keep the track even at 25-30km
- Even had a Magic II ignore LCMs being deployed by MAWS in front Aspect and couldn’t return fire because I couldnt even find the target visually or on radar
Su-30SM is definetly the meta aircraft in SB right now.
Edit trying a larger map now, had an su-30 on radar according to NCTR, waiting till it was in my LSZ, fired 4 AMRAAMs at it, turns out it was an R-77-1. NCTR is working great
Yeah, the “spend 20 minutes slowly moving the radar elevation around to find this Su-30 on my RWR before he can shoot me down with his E-Scan radar and then rapidly fire off every missile i’ve got just so that he cant defend by shooting my missile down” gameplay loop of ASB in the Typhoon is just… boring
and thats just when the radar will actually find the target or stay tracking long enough to fire an AMRAAM
I’ll play a match in the typhoon to and see how it goes in a bit. Altho im ngl, you’re kinda cooking yourself by playing such a small map at top tier.
Im now on dover strait and just spending my entire time staring at my radar panel trying to get a lock on the few guys on their team. But fighting Su-30s sucks
I’ve been in this match 20 minutes, fired 10 AMRAAM (at targets within the LSZ), still on 0 kills and 0 deaths
Edit: Game just crashed, CBA to reboot
he says it doesn’t have captor M as a bit because it doesn’t perform like it should
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