It’s the aim-9Ms smokeless motor that would make the true lock ranges excellent.
Lmao the whining and backlash that would cause from other nations.
Effectively you could hard counter the MiG-23 in sim by slapping a sidewinder at it from the same distance it could get a good R-24 shot.
And on the typhoon with the IRST that would be fun.
Yep, would be very good
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I actually had similar experience with this last night while trying to lock ARHs fired at me with the 9M last night. It felt like the missile was reaching minimum evasive range before the 9M would lock, even when I had the target ARH radar locked, well within 1 mile. Frankly didn’t think it would be an issue after the “missile skin heating” patch but I was unpleasantly surprised.
No, what I mean is iirc, AIM-9L used to have a lock more than 4 KM, if AIM-9L can do this, AIM-9M should also do, but idk since when the lock range was reverted back again to precise or less than 4 KM.
Was the ARH still burning?
Trust me, magic 2s don’t lock at their max in range game. Not more than the AIM9M.
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From the Jag IS felt like a lot further away
Not really any advantage lock range from my familiarity with both. Generally seems within spitting distance of each other. Unless you’re launching at something particularly odd.
Though from my understanding sitting in a few threads, seems both are pretty mediocre compared to where it ought to be.
I’ve used AIM-9L/M, Magic II, Python 3, R-73 and R-60M, the only missile that locks from any different range is R-60M, because of the pitiful seeker. They’re basically all copypastas right now, barring IRCCM differences. The biggest thing that will change lock distance anyway is if you’re looking at a plane that is ridiculously hot (tomcat or F-111) or one that is hilariously cold (F-5).
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I know all that…
I will have to get a clip, but R-73 using the mig21bison in test flight instantly locked when I entered range according to the radar. Aim-9M against the same target and in roughly the same aspect, didn’t lock until minimum range.
I can get together a clip if you want.
But aim-9Ms have significantly nerfed lock ranges at the moment, they are a Dechirped seeker, but are C&P of the Aim-9L which is not a dechirped seeker (by default)
The fact that the Aim-9M is the weakest in a short range dogfight but can barely acquire a lock at any range beyond 1km under certain conditions (non-AB and side aspect) is just stupid when the target has been in the LSZ for several KM