I was referring to range.
Using commercial deal 90% of the time end up with way off numbers, same as recently with f16 etc…
So better to not read too much about it, still it’s understandable to try to find a way to know the cost.
Interesting, so the US and UK screwed eachother in a nice lose lose situation (with some advantages for both tbf), while everyone else went their own ways…
How truly geopolitics-like lol.
yep, and now they are returning the favour with the Meteor intergration on the F-35
Ive seen a few people wonder if its going to be delayed until after Aim-260 is export ready and they’ll try to get people to buy them instead
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would the 260 fit in the weapons bay?
I think so.
I’d hope their smart enough to design their new missile to fit inside the weapons bay of their primary fighter
Oh it definitly will, except they wont try, they’ll just force ppl to buy the AIM-260 on anything they havent already allowed Meteor integration on already.
Thats if they dont invade Canada first or collapse under the economic idiocy of their current admin and populace.
Pretty sure they are doing/did the same thing with AH-64E and JAGM iirc?
Well it’s more that the US tried to screw everyone else over by locking them into AMRAAM purchases, and then refusing to buy a European SRAAM, and the UK saw that they had enough leverage left to at least benefit from the situation. There were other factors two like Hughes promising to move work to UK on other programmes.
The UK also believed that Hughes had a strong enough lobby in the US that they would be able to convince the US government to allow exports, as they would have a stake in the sales.
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The AMRAAM-AXE would fit in the internal weapons bay, but since thatd be a cheap an effective miasile, the US aint integrating it despite it being developped and offered.
The US defense industrial complex is at best a jobs program, and at worst just a money printer for the owners and their friends.
I think that was purely a cost thing. It was cheaper to buy JAGM than to build Brimstones
but the US system have to be the best because they are the most expensive /s
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Hear me out, meteor won’t be that broken
You sure? Wikipedia states JAGM to have a unit cost 2-3x greater than Brimstones…
US mains are going to cry for the 120D-5 and even that wont help them
Just like the fakour 90 but smaller blast radius, and similar turn radius, maybe
Think so
Current US figures put the unit cost of a Lockheed Martin-made JAGM at around $324,805 (£229,101) per missile; however, this figure is expected to fall significantly as production is increased, with the aim being a full-scale production unit cost close to that of the current AGM-114R Hellfire missile.
The cost of Brimstone would also decrease given large enough orders; however, Defence industry analyst and consultant specialising in land warfare Nicholas Drummond told Army Technology that it would be unlikely to go below £200K per missile.
Selecting Brimstone; however’ would have also incurred further integration costs, whilst the JAGM is already integrated onto the AH-64E. JAGM is also already integrated within the aircraft simulators and mission planning systems. - Source
But JAGM does have other benefits
On JAGM, Bronk added: “On the flip side, JAGM offers a more flexible warhead for other targets such as troops in the open, dug in weapon positions and structures.
No, BADL (British Aerospace Dynamics Ltd) paid Hughes to develop the seeker for them.
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Yeah… I wonder if they might even change their minds given recent events. Especially if there is any uncertainity about JAGM deliveries
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I don’t have high hopes for ASRAAM, being that if they do decide to segregate Typhoon load out options.
Germany, Italy only receive IRIS-T
That leaves Britain as the only used in game of the ASRAAM…
If they don’t and decide to offer it to all Typhoon nations it wont matter as we can fall back on the IRIS-T
While months of bug reports are “accepted”