Eurofighter Typhoon (UK versions) - Technical data and discussion

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8783

Eh…

Their only real advantage is the longer range, but between everyones increasing confidence in defending against fox-3s (which is a given for most at top tier) and the increased performance of the aircraft the Typhoon faces (Aircraft like the F-15, Su-30 and Rafale) have the CM count, RWR performance and FM to defend with ease at medium range

So where most of the fights usually actually take place are well within effective ranges for the R-77-1 and MICA EM which hold huge advantages over the AMRAAM these days. Especially the MICA now its got the best seeker out of any ARH and its not a small advantage either.

Aim-120s remain usable, but are no where near as strong as they were when new.

Especially when combined with the near-useless radar on the Typhoon, any form of BVR fight is a chore just to get the radar to lock onto the right target

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8784

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8785

literally stated why they missed

8786

No no

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8787

So a 120 can hit a hovering helicopter but not a stalled out Su-27…

I wonder which one has a bigger RCS

8788

it isnt about rcs, its about the velocity, a stalled out target will have 0 velocity and will be filtered out by PD filters along with the ground clutters. helicopters move decently thats why it hits them. if its hovering you cant radar lock it in the first place using PD.

8789

🤨

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8790

low ahh quality for peak ahh image

8791

Am I tripping or you guys see that too

8792

If only that’s how AIM 120s seekers worked

8793

thats how aim120 works

8794

I will have to find the document.

Works on a similar design to the ARHM head on Patriot which can also shoot down targets with little to no inertia

8795

bassically IOG or base pulse mode (vulnerable to chaff and ground clutter)

8796

A jet not moving as you put it would be dumping chaff directly behind or in Russian cases on top of the aircraft.

The 120 wouldn’t fail to connect.

8797

That might be Aim-120 on the inner pylon, but that might also be ALARM or something similar, its impossible to tell

8798

it will still struggle, until and unless you are providing DL updates to it. its not a a good idea to waste a amraam on a stalling target

8799

I tried having a play in Photoshop, see if I could bring out any additional details, but the data just isnt there. The image is too low ress and there is just too much noise and distortion.

Definetly looks to be something on the inner pylons, but just no way of knowing if its AMRAAM/Meteor or something else like a HARM

8800

Probably

8801

Looks like way more MRAAM/BVRAAMs than the current 6, but quality is so bad we cant tell if its real or what it is exactly…

8802

can it ?

helis are surprisingly hard to lock on hovering heli imo. Seems like the giant blades are just ignored

Fox 3 seekers are a bit more advanced than that. First off, filtering out is usually done to avoid false returns on a scanning radar. The thing is, you don’t just “filter out” a target you are already locked onto. Also, the return given by the notching target is at a different range compared to the ground behind it.

When it comes to chaff, one simple algorithm comparing the vector to the new returns created by a chaff drop would be enough to entirely disregard them, especially in a notch.

Fox3s in the game have a tendency to miss even the mig15s on the test drive at times, which really shouldn’t be the case

That being said, it’s a balancing tool, so it doesn’t bother me that much