I’d like P3I as well as the stanadard ASRAAM, even if it had a worse seeker than the IRIS-T the flexibility might still come in handy, also the UK could do something like take 2 ASRAAM, 2 P3I and 8 Meteor, which would be utterly ridiculous.
P3i never existed. And we have ASRAAM csp that should be on par with other missiles. I have no data but it is a modern upgrade
Also why is this pic so blurry, it wasnt like that before
Ukraine yes, but the stupid MoD went with the US JAGM, a worse missile, for 90 million extra, although the Apache did test it so i’d argue its worth it on the British Apache’s. Rumour has it Boeing refuses to integrate JAGM but I haven’t seen proof of it.
They’ve already proposed Boxer with Brimstone I think they’re even developing it.
That would be a good idea for top tier AA.
Yea, no one will make asramm sam. Camm exist
I haven’t see anything saying it was built, but nothing saying it wasn’t but as far as Gaijin is concerned it probably wasnt even though its a modified ASRAAM. Very, very unfortunate.
We will see how they implement it, it should be okay.
Yep, in the thread for it, its basically the only option for a +10km SPAA system for Britain.
But thats going off-topic for now, but yeah, Brimstones are going to be fun to have in WT. I really hope we see a Gr9A with them next year
1 Like
I would love to see the funny land ceptor as soon as possible. But yea off topic
4 Likes
Thankfully the conflicts showed how important spaas are, now they are in development. Looking forward to my Iris T spaa launchers
2 Likes
So now, will we get CAPTOR M or CAPTOR E when we get typhoons?
I reckon first 2 M, the third will be E
So a long time for the aesa
Potentially, but I dont think its going to matter much. I reckon Gaijin will see No AESA Typhoon vs AESA jets as a fair fight. But I reckon that might one way we might get a Typhoon before the heat death of the universe
And you know what is sad? One of the newer version of MIG 29 gets aesa
Captor M is one of if not the best M-scan radar’s in the world. It genuinely compares favourably to the Rafale’s PESA.
Tranche 3 early would also have the M and then the 3A and the 4 would have the AESA.
I’d expect those at the same time as things like F-15EX, or maybe SU-30/J-11 they might give us the ECRS MK.1 rather than the two.
For Gaijin the Eurofighters may end up like the british phantoms with consistent incremental upgrades as they are so modular there’s virtually no restrictions between aircraft.
So that’ll be the Soviet addition this December then
I think they might add Gripen and Harrier with Fox-3 this major and maybe things like the F-20 and JF-17 with less good flight performance and Hornet with fox-2.
And then the Major afterwards, things like early SU-27’s with M-scan and J-10/11, Superhornet with the 63 M-scan and not the apg-70.
I dunno they are hard to predict it would depend on if Gripen is the worst or the best airframe being added. Worst expect F-15/18, Su-27, some sort of chinese 4th gen. Best expect Shar, JF-17.
Found it. MIG 29K (9.31) has Aesa. But that is far into the future
1 Like
My take on the AMK kit is if its not implemented on the newer airframes it should come as an Event vehicle where when u redeem it u can chose Britain, Germany or Italy
1 Like
Also i really want a future EF with AMK + vector EJ 200
You’re overestimating those modern missile in term of range.
The IRIS-T is stated as 25km range.
The AIM-9L/M that everyone knows very well by now is stated as 18km max range.
The IRIS-T only has 40% upgrade on range over the AIM-9M.
So imagine a shot with the 9L and just add 40%
You would get around:
3KM rear aspect at sea level , 12km front aspect at sea level
7km rear aspect at 12km high, 20km front aspect at 12km high.
Anyways to reformulate, the right statement would be more like:
Under 5km the IRIS-T is better.
From 5/10km the ASRAAM is already sligthly better, the IRIS-T is already starting to lose energy.
After 10km the ASRAAM is very mutch better, the IRIS-T is already almost out of energy at every altitude.
After 20km the ASRAAM has no competition, the IRIS-T is very mutch out of energy except if the missile was fired from space. Nevertheless ,the ASRAAM is already almost of energy even at high alt.
After 30km The IRIS-T is a dud for sure. The ASRAAM keep going in high altitude in front aspect engagement
40km is probably the max you can get against a enemy figther even at high altitude front aspect.
The 50km value like all max range value is probably for a shot done at 15km high going MACH 2 against a Bomber going toward you at 10km high.
Be carefull with the “potent out to 50km”. It’s like if you were saying the AIM-9L is potent out to 18km. While it’s technically true, it’s not managable in any combat situation ever.
The limit in range of those misisle is really kinematics, not seeker or anything since they’re LOAL capable.
About the IRIS-T, it has counter DIRCM mesures. It’s the only missile resistant to DIRCM. It doesn’t equip DIRCM by itself.
It’s just a kind of IR countermesure you can install on plane (ie SU-39) or Helicopter that are supposed to decoyed the IR missile by blinding it with a powerfull ligth or by other means (idk a lot about the system). The ASRAAM/9X/MICA/R73/PYTHON5 will be blinded by sutch a system and it would probably make them miss or at least reduce significatly the lock range of the infrared seeker.
The IRIS-T doesn’t care about sutch a system and can even guide toward the blinding laser (kinda like Home on Jam of FOX 3 missile).
Are you talking about the ASRAAM BLOCK 6? If, so then yes, it should be even better than just on par.
Second best range of FOX 2 missile (=to R-74M2 < MICA IR NG but better than everything else)
One of the most modern seeker available with very good IRCCM.
While not the most maneuvrable still 50G.
Usable as an IRST is needed thank to it’s very sensitive seeker.
The ground launch ASRAAM has up to 16km range which is quite impresive.
But as of rn it would be the most OP sam in the game by far.
50G unflarable IR missile that you can’t excape if you’re less than 8km aways.
And you can spam them, since they’re fire and forget.
I feel like the ASRAAM ground launched SAM is better than the IRIS-T SLS. Better range and the extra maneuvrability of the IRIS-T is probably not very usefull for sam use.
50G is more than enought for SAM. The 60G+ TVC is maybe better for VERY short range interception but apart from that.
Some SAM that could be added in the futur for Britain is the tracked rapier. It’s a potent sam that has the same capabilities as a ROLAND.
1 Like