giving it an empty mass of 10000kg (the Mk4 atleast)
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Likewise sources claim anywhere from 136 to 155kg weight for AMRAAM variants lol, we’d need a better source. I have a primary source that is available for public distribution that states 11,000kg empty.
11,000kg may well be correct, mine includes pilot mass, oil and integrated weapon stations.
So likely yours is what I should use for the calculation for T/W based on the 1.22 figure. Need to go see what other ordnance might have been on it as the actual thrust might even be higher than 40,000lbf.
It said OCA/DCA combat configuration with 6500 pounds internal fuel. Need to know what the combat configuration is so we can get approximate weight increases…
11,300kg + 6,500 pounds of fuel + ordnance weights x 1.22 = thrust
So 1.46 for eft installed(estimated) vs 1.23 for F-14D
1.46 static for the Eurofighter, 1.23 optimal for F-14B
The F-14 also has a swing wing, whereas Eurofighter has relaxed stability. I think it’s probably pretty close.
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Euro fighter best fighter
Both static at Sea Level Installed, and typhoon may well be higher.
I wouldn’t say that’s close
J-8F T/W ratio is > J-7E but we know which one rates better… there’s more to this.
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The eurofighter also has canards.
What’s the wing loading of those, and the wing loading of the eurofighter Vs f-14?
And 1.457 for F-18E at M 0.9(Peak thrust) installed…
I’m not following the point of these questions? The F-14 in similar configuration to what the Eurofighter was getting 16 something deg/s has a higher sustained turn rate in the game…?
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Eurofighter>f16 it is much better
No idea what you’re trying to say here, although not shocked you don’t understand the importance of wing loading.
Wing loading is an important characteristic of aircraft flight performance. The EF has a much better wing loading than the F-14. It also has a much better TWR.
The document earlier compared performances in sustained rate. It showed it was inferior to the F-16C, and we know the F-14B has a better rate in similar conditions. How is comparing wing loading going to change that?
Is it necessary to attack people when you’re having a discussion?
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Your Aussie air power source?
Not at all, just deserved in this circumstance.
@SlowHandClap
Can’t do all your work for you
Also doesn’t really help your argument to be constantly insulting the other party.
F-14 has better effective wing loading than the Typhoon due to the lifting body.
Typhoon wing loading is around 312kg/m^2
F-14D effective wing loading is 230kg/m^2
Regarding the rate fight, the Eurofighter is roughly equivalent to an F-16 below 10000ft exceeds it as the altitude rises according to Italian pilots:
Which is corroborated by the Indian MMRCA competition stating the EF2000 demonstrated only 0.3°/s lower STR at 5000ft (ie: below 10000ft):
Spoiler
And explains ex-german Eurofighter pilots explanation of the relative performance of a Eurofighter vs an F-16:
The Eurofighter is a dogfighting, and more specifically, a rate fighting monster. It has massive TWR, low wing loading, and great aerodynamics.
Beyond the fact that it effectively matches or exceeds the F-16 in all flight regimes (except aoa on early Eurofighters without the AMK kit), the Eurofighter also just brings more endurance in fuel, weapons, and countermeasures to the table.
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