Eurofighter Typhoon (UK versions) - Technical data and discussion

DL is low-powered by it’s very nature - otherwise it would be an easy ‘giveaway’ to the launch aircraft’s location. The simple fact is that the signal will be weaker the further away it is from the launching aircraft.

The way to think of it is if someone is talking to you at normal volume in a busy room. You can probably hear that person if stood next to them. You have a harder job the further away you are. Especially if someone is expressly trying to drown out your conversation by talking loudly next to your intended listener.

IRST avoids that in one way. But IR countermeasures exist. EFT also has IRST of it’s own.

Meteor can still be launched down the incoming track of the AMRAAM in this scenario. If the F-15 is trying to output enough power to jam the EFT (which it might well do) then it becomes vulnerable to home-on-jam. It doesn’t have a TRD to play with - so what does the F-15 pilot do? It becomes a very expensive game of chicken…

For the avoidance of doubt; I’d rather be in the Typhoon defensively. Of course, I’d really much rather not be shot at in the first place. I’d very much rather not be shot at by a NATO aircraft either…

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Israel has two types in service since the 90s

One of them goes mach 9

Even the Eurofighter uses multi mode seeker ordnance such as brimstone

Not necessarily, modern electronics can permit the use of multiple seekers with less weight in the same area as older style seekers.

DASS was made before they could even put an AESA in the plane what makes you think it can work against AESA? DASS being upgraded is a huge point of future Eurofighter upgrade kits and it seems like it’s being rushed.

Try jamming a two-way datalink that is being fed from three separate locations

Modern IRST like legion pod on F-15, IRST 21 on F-18, and EOTS on F-35, and Pirate, are all capable of differentiating aircraft from IR countermeasures. typically, seperate systems tend to be more effective, such as ECM pod vs internal ECM suite, so i dont thinks its unreasonable to give the IRST advantage to F-15 seeing as legion pod is far newer and more advanced.

one of the coolest things an AESA radar can do is make more than one beam. this can be used to jam more than one thing at once no? there is also EPAWSS that the Meteor will have to get through. pretty sure that there are active radar countermeasures (similar/same as britecloud) that can be put in F-15 dispensers so it will be able to screw up the Meteor

im putting this as a 1v1 situation, but considering there will be mostly AESA aircraft on a team at future top tier, this isnt unreasonable

You mean the arrow?

That’s an anti Ballistic misisle system, and is like patriot on steroids.

It’s a very special use case that is designed to shoot down ICBM’s in low earth orbit.

They are easily able to fit the dual mode seeker in its 800mm diamiter body…

It’s a wonder why nobody else has tried to replicate it.

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Well come on now. If the F-15 gets to have extra toys underneath in this scenario - are you expressly stating that the EFT cannot get those same/equivalent pods?

What version of Eagle is being flown by this lunatic USAF pilot wanting to restart the War of Indepedence anyway?

USA has the THAADS

the upgraded F-15E being flown by a war thunder pilot

and im not aware of any IRST pods for the EFT, if it has them it can use them, but the eagle isnt running external ECM pods

turns out we literally do have Britecloud, and it is compatible with the CM dispensors on the F-15E

There was legitimately a dual seeker AIM-7 variant built and tested prior to 1996 - if they thought it was necessary they would have produced them. Now we are focusing instead on AESA seeker and multi-mode guidance + two way datalink instead.

lol

Vs. a Strike Eagle - sorry, my money would definitely be on a Typhoon of similar vintage.

If flown by a War Thunder pilot that’s even easier - he’ll just YOLO headlong into a furball and not bother with any of this fancy EW stuff.

(Latter sentence a bit tongue in cheek but there you go…)

fair enough. strike eagle has gotten some pretty crazy upgrades recently though, especially in Radar, EW & IRST department

lets agree to disagree

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As far as i am aware the Targeting pods that it has can be used as IRST

Isn’t there a difference in a2a capabilities between a dedicated a2a IRST or IRST pod and an a2g targeting pod? Pirate could track more targets no?

I dont know the specifics i just read it here in this or the german topic

I think the difference would be that you can’t set the pod to scan for targets, instead using your radar to scan a target then slave the pod to it.

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Iirc, you CAN, but it won’t be as good in a2a as say, PIRATE, or a Legion pod

Also I don’t think a2g TGP has the software to do multiple a2a tracking at once

No, and it also shouldn’t be able to guide in ammrams like the PIRATE can but it should be able to provide guidance for IR missiles so enemy flares don’t break your radar track at least.

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Does Home-On-Jam home in on the towed decoy? Which is what I would imagine what the main purpose of it would be as it would fool missiles into thinking the jamming is coming from the aircraft, sorry I’m really drunk as it’s New Year’s, happy 2025 everyone!

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Yes, if the decoy is jamming, the missile would probably home onto it if it has home on jam

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