So you are saying that it accelerating to Mach 1 in half the time that is listed is not dramatic???
It’s current time to climb beats many of the current world records from 9000m - 15000m. It beats many of them by over 30 seconds. Do you find this improbable?
It also should be able to accelerate to Mach 1.5 without the use of reheat, but currently barely hits mach 1.
So its dry heat is also underperforming significantly and needs an increase of 50%.
So its thrust is all over the place
That did not answer the question.
It’s really odd to see a plane accelerating twice as fast as your own sources claim and think that it’s only off by a little bit.
So can the innermost Pylons on the left and right sides of Typhoon carry AAM? I checked Issue and found that the report on this problem has been Nab.
brakes off to 36k ft test
source:
“under 2 minutes 30 seconds”
expected:
2 minutes 30 seconds minus approx 15-20 seconds
result:
approx 2 minutes
So based upon that test, it climbs about 15 seconds too fast. That does not require a massive reduction in thrust to correct.
Unless you have a source for teh reheat thrust being significantly out or are just basing it on the fact the Typhoon is better than the Su-27?
15 seconds from 200kts to Mach 1 currently.
Eurofighter accelerates twice as fast as it should from 200kts to Mach 1.
I don’t see how British mains will claim that this is a small difference.
Statshark SEP numbers are not really accurate in my experience. That is especially true with unstable airframes.
You are running a clean airframe at min fuel. Talk about biased data.
If you re-run the test under more reasonable conditions, full weapons load and 75-100% fuel, you get a time more like 22-24 seconds.
Yes likely overperforming still, but not the double that you are claiming.
So dry thrust is likely 50% lower than it should be, reheat thrust is likely 15% maybe 20% higher than it should be. Combine with the all the other buffs for the Typhoon, like a higher instantaeous turn rate, higher wing rip speed, higher top speed, etc etc. Id still argue the typhoon is overall underperforming by quite a bit
The gripen on statshark is bugged and is not representative of real performance in-game. Apparently, canard deltas are bugged. If you compared the gripen to the blk 10 F-16 on statshark you would think the F-16 is better in every way but in actual 1v1s the gripen is still the best dogfighter as of this patch. It makes me doubt the statshark info for the Eurofighter as well but maybe its fixed for the dev server planes?
Yeah, I don’t trust statshark stats. Makes it seem like gripen is terrible
It also beats pretty much every current time to climb world record I can find by pretty large margins.
I thought it was weird as well.
My friend seemed to have a slight edge in absolute pull in the Gripen while I was flying the Typhoon, this is when the speed dropped to around 500 km/h and below.
I’d imagine if Gaijin addresses the 15-20% overperforming afterburning thrust it will be closer to reality.
Irrelevant question but you’re squish on youtube, right?
I happen to be yes.
The Devs have said they are not accepting FM bug reports on the Eurofighter because of how heavily WIP the flight model is. So I expect it will change a fair amount.
Which one was that?
But the performance of typhoon radar is really bad now, especially the TWS mode.
There is no doubt that it is going to be changed. No way that it will remain like this.
The issue is getting sources. My hope. at a bare minimum, they upgrade the scan rate to match FoxHunter.
As I mentioned, I am not looking into the FM until Gaijin give us a more polished version (there’s no point as they are rejecting all FM reports). However, the numbers on the Eurofighter website are understating the true performance.
For example the website says brakes off to Mach 1.5 @ 35,000 ft in under 2.5 mins.
Meanwhile BAE Systems claim it is brakes off to Mach 1.6 @ 36,000 ft in under 2.5 mins in their datasheet. And Eurofighter also use those more impressive numbers in a presentation they gave.
As for acceleration the website claims 200 kts to Mach 1.0 in 30 seconds. However the BAE Systems datasheet I posted above says brake release to Mach 1 in under 30 seconds.
And again Eurofighter use those numbers in their marketing material as well:
FM is a placeholder guys, we’re not accepting reports on this version of it as an improved version is already on the way.
